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Quote Natella Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 11:49am

Though I expected her death (was almost sure of it),  I see that things are going to get even more horrific in the world. But it is said that things get better only after they reach their worst.

La ilaaha illa Allah.

Pray for the people of the world, we're going to need it.

Salaam to all.

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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 12:24pm

Those are very interesting points Whisper.  It leaves a lot for one to think about.

When a crime takes place, it's our duty to examine all its angles, not just the one that happens to be our favourite. No?

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Quote Salams_wife Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 8:06pm
The news here in the US is spinning this event to suit its needs as usual.  They are going to the usual fallback of saying Al-Qaeda did it.  They swear they have proof.  I think you only need a cousin's wife's brother in law's neighbor who has a loose relation in order for it to be an act from Al-Qaeda.

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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 8:44pm

A tragedy born of military despotism and anarchy



The assassination of Benazir Bhutto heaps despair upon Pakistan. Now her party must be democratically rebuilt

Tariq Ali
Friday December 28, 2007
The Guardian

Even those of us sharply critical of Benazir Bhutto's behaviour and policies - both while she was in office and more recently - are stunned and angered by her death. Indignation and fear stalk the country once again.

An odd coexistence of military despotism and anarchy created the conditions leading to her assassination in Rawalpindi yesterday. In the past, military rule was designed to preserve order - and did so for a few years. No longer. Today it creates disorder and promotes lawlessness. How else can one explain the sacking of the chief justice and eight other judges of the country's supreme court for attempting to hold the government's intelligence agencies and the police accountable to courts of law? Their replacements lack the backbone to do anything, let alone conduct a proper inquest into the misdeeds of the agencies to uncover the truth behind the carefully organised killing of a major political leader.

How can Pakistan today be anything but a conflagration of despair? It is assumed that the killers were jihadi fanatics. This may well be true, but were they acting on their own?

Benazir, according to those close to her, had been tempted to boycott the fake elections, but she lacked the political courage to defy Washington. She had plenty of physical courage, and refused to be cowed by threats from local opponents. She had been addressing an election rally in Liaquat Bagh. This is a popular space named after the country's first prime minister, Liaquat Ali Khan, who was killed by an assassin in 1953. The killer, Said Akbar, was immediately shot dead on the orders of a police officer involved in the plot. Not far from here, there once stood a colonial structure where nationalists were imprisoned. This was Rawalpindi jail. It was here that Benazir's father, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, was hanged in April 1979. The military tyrant responsible for his judicial murder made sure the site of the tragedy was destroyed as well.

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto's death poisoned relations between his Pakistan People's party and the army. Party activists, particularly in the province of Sind, were brutally tortured, humiliated and, sometimes, disappeared or killed.

Pakistan's turbulent history, a result of continuous military rule and unpopular global alliances, confronts the ruling elite now with serious choices. They appear to have no positive aims. The overwhelming majority of the country disapproves of the government's foreign policy. They are angered by its lack of a serious domestic policy except for further enriching a callous and greedy elite that includes a swollen, parasitic military. Now they watch helplessly as politicians are shot dead in front of them.

Benazir had survived the bomb blast yesterday but was felled by bullets fired at her car. The assassins, mindful of their failure in Karachi a month ago, had taken out a double insurance this time. They wanted her dead. It is impossible for even a rigged election to take place now. It will have to be postponed, and the military high command is no doubt contemplating another dose of army rule if the situation gets worse, which could easily happen.

What has happened is a multilayered tragedy. It's a tragedy for a country on a road to more disasters. Torrents and foaming cataracts lie ahead. And it is a personal tragedy. The house of Bhutto has lost another member. Father, two sons and now a daughter have all died unnatural deaths.

I first met Benazir at her father's house in Karachi when she was a fun-loving teenager, and later at Oxford. She was not a natural politician and had always wanted to be a diplomat, but history and personal tragedy pushed in the other direction. Her father's death transformed her. She had become a new person, determined to take on the military dictator of that time. She had moved to a tiny flat in London, where we would endlessly discuss the future of the country. She would agree that land reforms, mass education programmes, a health service and an independent foreign policy were positive constructive aims and crucial if the country was to be saved from the vultures in and out of uniform. Her constituency was the poor, and she was proud of the fact.

She changed again after becoming prime minister. In the early days, we would argue and in response to my numerous complaints - all she would say was that the world had changed. She couldn't be on the "wrong side" of history. And so, like many others, she made her peace with Washington. It was this that finally led to the deal with Musharraf and her return home after more than a decade in exile. On a number of occasions she told me that she did not fear death. It was one of the dangers of playing politics in Pakistan.

It is difficult to imagine any good coming out of this tragedy, but there is one possibility. Pakistan desperately needs a political party that can speak for the social needs of a bulk of the people. The People's party founded by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was built by the activists of the only popular mass movement the country has known: students, peasants and workers who fought for three months in 1968-69 to topple the country's first military dictator. They saw it as their party, and that feeling persists in some parts of the country to this day, despite everything.

Benazir's horrific death should give her colleagues pause for reflection. To be dependent on a person or a family may be necessary at certain times, but it is a structural weakness, not a strength for a political organisation. The People's party needs to be refounded as a modern and democratic organisation, open to honest debate and discussion, defending social and human rights, uniting the many disparate groups and individuals in Pakistan desperate for any halfway decent alternative, and coming forward with concrete proposals to stabilise occupied and war-torn Afghanistan. This can and should be done. The Bhutto family should not be asked for any more sacrifices.
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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 8:48pm

Please, tell the Americans that their collective low IQ average did it!

Al-qaeda is a mere figment of the US media's spin. It doesn't exist, it's decimated. All that's happening in today's Pakistan is CIA's (plus, Mossad's) doing - just for creating conditions for moving NATO forces - like the US did in Yugoslavia.

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Quote Salams_wife Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 9:27pm

Not all Americans believe Al-Qaeda is behind everything the media says it is.  I wouldn't go so far as to say it doesn't exist, or rather, didn't exist.  Yet, I think many people are getting tired of everything getting tied to that organization.  It is obvious they are trying to keep a central enemy that the American people can support fighting.  If this idea of "Al-Qaeda" fell apart, then so would many of the US policies (we can't be having that of course). 

The smarter American people know this, but unfortunately the not so smart ones (the low IQ folks) believe the "Al-Qaeda" idea because it is easy.  They don't know any better and they will not bother to learn because it is easier to be a blind sheep to the goverments actions.

Anyway, don't shoot the messenger.  I am just passing on the latest news spin here.  I certainly don't agree with it.

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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2007 at 10:57pm

Anyway, don't shoot the messenger.  I am just passing on the latest news spin here.  I certainly don't agree with it.

I will never shoot the messenger for two reasons; my sights are in the other room and I am not really pushed to leave the comfort of my bed just to get those!

Plus, I am getting quite addicted to the messages!

Benazir aide says govt explanation ‘pack of lies’


ISLAMABAD, Dec 28: A top aide to slain opposition leader Benazir Bhutto on Friday rejected the government’s explanation of her death as a “pack of lies”.

The Pakistan interior ministry said Ms Bhutto died when she hit her head on her vehicle’s sunroof as she ducked after a gun and suicide attack on a campaign rally, and that no bullets or shrapnel were found in her.

“It is baseless. It is a pack of lies,” Farooq Naik, Ms Bhutto’s top lawyer and a senior official in her Pakistan People’s Party, told AFP.

“Two bullets hit her, one in the abdomen and one in the head,” Mr Naik said. “Bhutto’s personal secretary Naheed Khan and party official Makhdoom Amin Fahim were in the car and they saw what happened,” he said.

“It is an irreparable loss and they are turning it into a joke with such claims. The country is heading towards civil war.” Interior ministry spokesman Javed Cheema said earlier that the post-mortem on the populist opposition leader found her mortal wound came when she tried to duck after the bomber attacked.

“The government is now claiming that Baitullah Mehsud is responsible,” Mr Naik told AFP. “What is the evidence?”

He added: “She was taken to hospital. She was bleeding. It was a serious security lapse.”—AFP
 



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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2007 at 1:35am

I wouldn't go so far as to say it doesn't exist, or rather, didn't exist. 

Listen, give me just less than a wee minute. Defense makes a lot of dollar sense? A never ending war may not be your dream or mine, but it's definitely the greatest find for the Industrial Compact.

It's the smartest scam to sweepclean your tax dollars in trillions not just in mere billions. It is the best industry, no one ever demands any product performance guarantees. If you are not satisfied with your T-shirt, you can take the till receipt and get a refund on it.

But, what do you get for 16 daisycutters you paid, with your tax deductions, last year if they don't go boom? (Other than the satisfaction that you have killed your share of Afghan infants)

Has anyone ever stood up to demand how much of his or her tax dollars are being spent on each Civilian Contractor? Defense spending has no field audits or checks at all.

All other trades, say construction, just for an instance, has performance and other regulatory standards laid out. We expect our money's worth even from a school teacher. It's just another matter that in our glorious Cap It All itis striken society, the poor woman doesn't earn, in her life time, what a footballer's delight can spend in a day's shopping.

War is the biggest money spinner. I am told even bigger than all the on-line casinos and the porn site put together. This machine has to be kept going. If we don't, we don't get the campaign funds we badly need for being able to place ourselves in the service of our absolutely beloved people!

We have time and again invented enemies to fight and destroy. Most of our past enemies were real and when we had destroyed our enemy, we had to pack up and sit on our stockpiles of all manners of wild and dangerous things. The collapse of the silly Soviet Union wasn't really a good thing. It made the whole lot of us redundant, just plain simple jobless.

Sometimes you must sit up and have a thought for all those poor Billionaires in their utter jobless plight. 

Their R & D gurus developed a brand new enemy after the Soviet Union collapsed. This enemy is not visible. It's just a virtual enemy. It's not real. Al-qaeda is a character coined by a Hollywood scriptwriter or some Presidential speech artist.

It never dies, it keeps growing and it is and can anywhere, like those Monstors Inc. ghosts. These days Bush uses the Al-Qaeda stickers for lumping together anyone and everyone who is fighting against the occupations of their countries, in Afghanistan, Iraq, anywhere.

Mush uses the same sticker for eliminating opposition to his illegal occupation of his own pobre people - of course, just and always backed by his only friend, Bush Mk II.

If Al-Qaeda exists why don't we negotiate a ceasefire with them? And, divert all these trillions we are losing into our healthcare, education and a bit of it for putting in better levies where these migt be needed.

My friend, Al-qaeda is a scam for emptying your pockets under the threat of invisible ghosts of your own fear!

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