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Quote Anatolian Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 12:06am
I have constantly stated the virtue of secularism. I truly believe in church and
state seperation. If the Church is not allowed to be involved in political life
same goes for politics involved in the "morality" of man. Scientific research
and everything with it that unnaturally changes a life falls, in my eyes,
under religion because the majority of people do believe that God has the
right to decide how long one is to live and so forth. The problem here is that
the state undermines and attacks religious institutions in a non direct
manner, wether it be TV, movies, literature, etc. The Americans will throw
freedom of speech. That is not true freedom, that is attacking your fellow
man's beliefs in how life should be. It disrupts the youth and other easy and
vulnerable targets in throwing away any chance of a spiritual life.
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Quote minuteman Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 10:44pm


 Secularism may not be so bad after all, i.e. as bad as nepotism and bigotism. The prophets used to come to make the people have some kind of law. Some rule of law. They did not like the people to be lawless. That was the greatest message of all prophets.

Then if the people made bad laws, they advised them to have good laws of decency, equality and justice and freedom of speech etc.

Only a few prophets brought new law (Sharia) for the people, not all prophets.

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