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Quote Mystical Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2008 at 3:15pm
Martha: Believing it "logical" that Jesus had a wife does not make it a fact. robin above is a Jehovahs Witness and not a Christian in the true sense of the word. JW's DO NOT believe in the divinity of Jesus which is the foundation of Christianity. As logical as it is for you to ASSUME Jesus was married it is more illogical for me, as a Chrisitian, to assume He was when the gospels and other Scriptures in the NT are quiet on this topic.
 
For a Christian, Jesus is the Word Incarnate, God made flesh. To put it simply Jesus is God. He came (sent by the Father) to shed His Precious Blood in atonement for the sins of humanity. Jesus did not come to enjoy an earthly life and beget a family. He came that we may have life.
 
I do however understand that as a Muslim you do not believe Jesus as the Son of God, you view Him as a mere prophet so it's fair to question whether He was married or not. But there is NO EVIDENCE that points to Him being married. I seen it elsewhere on this forum that marriage is an act of worship Wacko how so? and worship of whom? Worship is reserved for God alone. 
 
As His purpose in coming as a human being was to fulfil the scriptures He inspired earlier (amongst which "like a lamb He was led to slaughter") marriage was not in the equation. He came not to fall in love with one of His creation but to prove His love for the whole of humanity by taking on a physical body and all the limitations that come with being human and willingly sacrificing His life that we may believe that death has no power over Him and we can trust Him what He said and says completely.  
 
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robin: no offence but the 144 000 his symbolic wife? It is the Church that is the Bride of Christ. And the Church is many millions of individuals both in this life and in the afterlife.
 
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Quote Shasta'sAunt Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2008 at 1:33am
"As His purpose in coming as a human being was to fulfil the scriptures He inspired earlier (amongst which "like a lamb He was led to slaughter") marriage was not in the equation."
 
Could you please post the scriptures of which you speak?
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Quote martha Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2008 at 2:21am
Mystical said :- But there is NO EVIDENCE that points to Him being married.
 
And this is why I asked. A question 'off the cuff' so to speak. But just because there is no bible reference, doesnt mean he wasn't married either.
I fully understand Jesus' purpose on earth. And really, I shan't lose sleep over posing the question. Smile
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Quote robin Replybullet Posted: 04 June 2008 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by martha

You still havent answered my question. Did Jesus have a wife here on earth?
 
Did Jesus have a wife here on earth?  NO.
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Quote minuteman Replybullet Posted: 21 June 2008 at 8:24pm
 The real life of Isa a.s. is surrounded in mystery. I have just read the first two posts of this topis by martha and angela and enjoyed them very much. They are true to the point and they give much information.
 
 The mystery is there all the time. Marraige is no sin. But I know that the early christians (an even now) consider the sacred husband/wife reunion as a sin. How come?
 
 Also, the marriage of the mother of Isa a.s. is a mystery according to the bible. What she was doing and how she was living with her husband (Jospeh the Carpentar), nobody knows. Did she have other children beside the first born Jesus?
 
 Quran does not discuss these things so we need not explore them. But we have to look into the bible NT for all these things. There must be information there. But NOthing. There is only sentiments.
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Quote robin Replybullet Posted: 04 July 2008 at 1:08am
Originally posted by martha

(Wasnt sure where to put this new topic. Apologies if it is in the wrong section. )

When I was a Christian I came to understand that Jesus came to show people the way and to bring to pass the immortality of man. Jesus himself was baptised by John the Baptist in the river Jordan, to show the people that baptism was a necessary step to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. As marriage is also ordained by God, would it also have been necessary for Him to marry whilst on this earth, to show by example?

There are no such entries in the Bible of this event, not that I know of anyway. Many Christians would say that he lived a celibate life. But as a man who felt every kind of emotion, would it make sense that he would have had a wife? Some would say that Mary Magdelene was his wife. After he forgave her past history, she was constantly by His side, washed his feet, prepared meals. He first appeared to her, as the Bible says, after his death, before ascending into Heaven. 

Also, what is the muslim view on Jesus being married, if any. Is there any mention anywhere?

I  was just wondering. It isnt a big deal as such, just wondered if anyone else had thought the same. As for myself, I am happy to think he was married.

 

Jesus Christ compared himself with a bridegroom in a parable that he spoke. This was the parable of the "marriage feast" that a king prepared for his son, and this son stood for the Son of the great King of Eternity, Jehovah God. (Matthew 22:1-14)

In the Revelation, which Jesus Christ received from God and transmitted to the apostle John, Jesus as the Lamb of God is likened to a bridegroom who gets married to the congregation of his disciples, in these words: "Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones. . . . Write: Happy are those invited to the evening meal of the Lamb’s marriage." Furthermore, the apostle John tells of an angel who came to him and says:

20 "He spoke with me and said: ‘Come here, I will show you the bride, the Lamb’s wife.’ So he carried me away in the power of the spirit to a great and lofty mountain, and he showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God and having the glory of God." —Revelation 19:7-9; 21:9-11.

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Quote seekn Replybullet Posted: 05 July 2008 at 6:24pm
Assalamu Alikum,

"Many Ahadith specify that after his descension he will get married and have children and remain on the earth for a period of 19 years after his marriage." - According to Shaykh Ahmad Ali Al Ma'hadul Islami - Islamic Academy
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Majorsigns.html#marriage

"After his descension on earth, Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will marry. He will have children, and he will remain on earth 19 years after marriage. He will pass away and Muslims will perform his Janaza Salaat and bury him net to Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam). (Tirmidhi)
http://www.central-mosque.com/signs/TheComingOfIsa.htm - under Topic; "
His Marriage, Death and Deputies"

Edited by seekn - 05 July 2008 at 6:26pm
"He will not be asked about what He does, but they will be asked." (al-Anbiya' 21: 23)
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Quote Nazarene Replybullet Posted: 22 September 2008 at 7:55pm
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 the following is from "the gospel of phillip" take it as you wish.
 
      There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary
 
     As for the Wisdom who is called "the barren," she is the mother of the angels. And the companion of the savior is Mary Magdalene. The Lord loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her lips. The rest of the disciples saw him lovivg Mary they said to him "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them,"Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness."
 
For it is by a kiss that the perfect conceive and give birth. For this reason we also kiss one another. We receive conception from the grace which is in one another
 
       No one can know when the husband and the wife have intercourse with one another, except the two of them. Indeed, marriage in the world is a mystery for those who have taken a wife. If there is a hidden quality to the marriage of defilement, how much more is the undefiled marriage a true mystery! It is not fleshly, but pure. It belongs not to desire, but to the will. It belongs not to the darkness or the night, but to the day and the light. If a marriage is open to the public, it has become prostitution, and the bride plays the harlot not only when she is impregnated by another man, but even if she slips out of her bedroom and is seen. Let her show herself only to her father and her mother, and to the friend of the bridegroom and the sons of the bridegroom. These are permitted to enter every day into the bridal chamber. But let the others yearn just to listen to her voice and to enjoy her ointment, and let them feed from the crumbs that fall from the table, like the dogs. Bridegrooms and brides belong to the bridal chamber. No one shall be able to see the bridegroom with the bride unless he become such a one
 
 
There is the Son of Man and there is the son of the Son of Man. The Lord is the Son of Man, and the son of the Son of Man is he who creates through the Son of Man. The Son of Man received from God the capacity to create. He also has the ability to beget. He who has received the ability to create is a creature. He who has received the ability to beget is an offspring. He who creates cannot beget. He who begets also has power to create. Now they say, "He who creates begets". But his so-called "offspring" is merely a creature. Because of [...] of birth, they are not his offspring but [...]. He who creates works openly, and he himself is visible. He who begets, begets in private, and he himself is hidden, since [...] image. Also, he who creates, creates openly. But one who begets, begets children in private
 
        Mary is the virgin whom no power defiled. She is a great anathema to the Hebrews, who are the apostles and the apostolic men. This virgin whom no power defiled rests in silence while the powers defile themselves.
 
 
the HOLY TWELVE (LECTION VI- 6 )
 
. And they marvelled, and one passing by heard it, and he said, Yea, truly, ye have chosen well, for he is a comely child and of great nobility.
13. AND in the eighteenth year of his age, Yeshua was espoused unto Miriam, a virgin of the tribe of Judah with whom he lived seven years, and she died, for God took her, that he might go on to the higher things which he had to do, and to suffer for the sons and daughters of men.
 
 (LECTION LXVI ie- 66)
 9. Again I say unto you, I and My Bride are one, even as Maria Magdalena, whom I have chosen and sanctified unto Myself as a type, is one with Me; I and My Church are One. And the Church is the elect of humanity for the salvation of all
 
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Edited by Nazarene - 23 September 2008 at 3:39pm
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