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Quote Knowledge01 Replybullet Topic: Ibn Baz Wakes His Children For Salah
    Posted: 02 December 2007 at 11:58am
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Concerning the Imaam, the Shaykh - 'Abdul-'Azeez ibn Baaz (rahima-hullaah), his son Ahmad narrates:

"The Shaykh used to call his children via the internal phone to wake them up for Salaat al-Fajr.

And when he called them, he would recite the (authentic and recommended) supplication:

((al-Hamdu Lillaahil-lathee Ahyaanaa ba'da maa Amaatanaa wa ilayhin-nushoor))
(All praise is for Allaah who gave us life having taken it from us and unto Him is the resurrection)

...since they were overcome by sleep, he would ask them to repeat this supplication until he felt sure they had woken up!"

al-Imaam Ibn Baaz - duroos wa mawaaqif wa 'ibar - Page 71
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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 03 December 2007 at 3:50am
Salaamu Alaykum,

Who is Ibn Baaz, besides the son of Baaz?
Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Quote Knowledge01 Replybullet Posted: 03 December 2007 at 8:59am
Wa Alaikum Salam wa Rahmatullah,

Sheikh Abdullah Ibn Baaz is a prominent scholar of our time. He was the teacher of my other prominent shuyukh of our times including Ibn Uthaymin and Al Albani.


Link to his official site
http://www.binbaz.org.sa/

Link to his biography on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd-al-Aziz_ibn_Abd-Allah_ibn_B aaz

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Quote Andalus Replybullet Posted: 03 December 2007 at 7:21pm

Originally posted by herjihad

Salaamu Alaykum,

Who is Ibn Baaz, besides the son of Baaz?

Assalam Aleikum.

He was a wahabi cleric who's views are highly controversial. He was part of a crowd who indulged in heresy and attempted to assert the Ummah has been in error for centuries, except for him and his friends, and Ibn Taymiyyah, and Abdl Wahab, the main source of their views, which are usually minority opinions.

  



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Quote Knowledge01 Replybullet Posted: 04 December 2007 at 8:49am
Originally posted by Andalus

Assalam Aleikum.


He was a wahabi cleric who's views are highly controversial. He was part of a crowd who indulged in heresy and attempted to assert the Ummah has been in error for centuries, except for him and his friends, and Ibn Taymiyyah, and Abdl Wahab, the main source of their views, which are usually minority opinions.


  



I agree that Sheikh Ibn Baaz has some wrong opinions and fatawa, but every human, including the best of shuyukh, makes mistakes.

He also had a lot of knowledge and good qualities, one of which is pointed out in my first post.

Make 70 excuses for you brother in din and ask Allah to forgive him and be pleased with him.
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Quote Knowledge01 Replybullet Posted: 04 December 2007 at 11:29am
Please move this topic back to where it was because this is not the appropriate section for it.
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Quote Andalus Replybullet Posted: 05 December 2007 at 9:49pm
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Originally posted by Andalus

Assalam Aleikum.


He was a wahabi cleric who's views are highly controversial. He was part of a crowd who indulged in heresy and attempted to assert the Ummah has been in error for centuries, except for him and his friends, and Ibn Taymiyyah, and Abdl Wahab, the main source of their views, which are usually minority opinions.


  



I agree that Sheikh Ibn Baaz has some wrong opinions and fatawa, but every human, including the best of shuyukh, makes mistakes.

No one is saying that the man was immoral, or irreligous, or dumb, etc, etc. No one is claiming that he is wrong because he was not perfect. The problem with bin baaz is not that he was fallible, or that a scholar must be infallible, the problem is that he advocated ideas that were in line with a sect that has created so much fitnah. He also was openly a member of this sect. His mistakes were from a matter of his choice to follow misguidance, not from simply being fallible.

 

He also had a lot of knowledge and good qualities, one of which is pointed out in my first post.

His knowledge might have been good, but what does it avail him when he dissented from 1000 years of scholarship, supported a heresy, put out fatwas that created fitnah. If a man's methdology to derive religou rulings is based upon an ideology that is contraversial, then how does a muqliid shuffle through his views and discern between the good and the fallacious? The threat of misguidance dictates that the logical path is to go to sources that, might have a mistake secondary to an author who was fallible, rather than secondary to a theologically bankrupt ideology.

 

The idea of groups of scholars who have worked for generations in the religous sciences decreases the odds that mistakes have crept in. This is in contrast to an ideology that everyone has been wrong fro centuries and so a couple of handful of men will correct what everyone lese was unable to to in a century and a half.

 


Make 70 excuses for you brother in din and ask Allah to forgive him and be pleased with him.

contextually, you bet!

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Quote Alwardah Replybullet Posted: 07 December 2007 at 10:52am

As Salamu Alaikum

 

Bro Andulus, I still don’t understand your immense dislike for the wahabi scholars as you call them.

 

There are many in the Muslim world who cherish their works…………give it a break brother.

 

Shaikh ibn Baz (Rahimahullah) has already met His Lord, you still have time to repent………make good use of that time.

 

May Allah forgive us for our foolishness. Ameen!

 

Wa Alaikum Salam

“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165)
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