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Quote Angel Replybullet Posted: 25 November 2007 at 11:44pm

I believe/think th ebig outcry here is, its not that she got punished for being along with a guy to get her picture back, but for standing up for her rights in court that lead to extra or more punishment than should have.

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Quote Hayfa Replybullet Posted: 26 November 2007 at 11:44am

Plus, she was not attacked not be him, but by other men... so it could have happened if hshe had been with her brother etc. The guy she was with was also assualted..

 

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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 26 November 2007 at 12:37pm

Originally posted by Israfil

You know there was a trial right?

March 3, 1991:  After being seen speeding on the 210 freeway by CHP officers, King led them on a chase at speeds estimated at up to 110 to 115 mph.  When finally stopped, King refused requests to get into the prone position and appeared to charge one of the officers.  He was beaten and arrested.  King was charged with felony evading.  Charges were later dropped.

 

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Quote Israfil Replybullet Posted: 26 November 2007 at 3:28pm
Um, I'm referrnig to the trial of the police officers involved in the use of excessive force. Yes your memory does not serve you well....Wow abuayisha I'd expect more from you.
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Quote Israfil Replybullet Posted: 27 November 2007 at 12:48am

Officials blame victim for rape

Los Angeles Times (Saudi Arabia)

the justice ministry said a Saudi woman sentence to jail time and flogging after being raped by seven men was an adultress who invited the attack because she was partly dressed in a parked car with her lover. The statement, carried by the Saudi Press Agency, sought to ease international outrage over the case by discrediting the woman, who had said she was meeting a friend from high school when the attack occured. It said the 19-year old victim was married and had confessed to an affair. The report said the attackers saw her "in indecent condition...then the assault occured on her and the man." The seven men got prison sentences of two to nine years.

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According to Saudi law, if you dress inappropriately you "get what you deserve." What a load of crap, this poor excuse for damage control was systematically stupified by showing the world that women are still responsible even when a crime has been committed against them. This is almost like saying that she deserved it just because (assuming they are telling the truth) their dress was inappropriate. Because it is Saudi Arabia if they ounished her for her for her for whatever reason is fine but to simply say, indirectly that she deserved it for her dress is totally uncalled for. There really is no defense against such lame excuses.

 

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Quote Saladin Replybullet Posted: 27 November 2007 at 5:02am
Well,the rapists didnt get what they deserved!
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Quote abuayisha Replybullet Posted: 27 November 2007 at 7:08am

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According to Saudi law, if you dress inappropriately you "get what you deserve." What a load of crap,

According to Saudi law she broke the law.  Like the example of Rodney King, which I mentioned previously.  What's truly amazing is that often we reject the premise of “cause and effect” with respect to rape.  I assume that feminist have been successful in redefining this issue.  As fathers aren’t we concerned and cautious about what our daughters wear?  If you tow someone’s car late at night, don’t you offer to call a cab for the individual?  When we leave our keys in our car or window open at night, thus a crime occurs do we bear any responsibility for our actions?  The females who were in Kobe Bryant and Mike Tyson’s’ rooms at night, are we not allow to say, “What the heck were they doing there?”  Pure and simple, as you know very well from working in law enforcement, that some people are evil.  They are predators, who exploit the vulnerabilities of those of us who are unaware, weak, forgetful or just pain st**id.  How many of us were appalled by Jonbenet Ramsey photos, where her parents dressed her as a woman?  Sure, how cute and certainly they have this right.  Moreover, we are distressed by her murder, but sick and evil people exist.  Last year, there was a case in New Jersey, if my memory serves me well, where two young college students in miniskirts were out clubbing well after midnight.  Their car was towed and one girl passed out drunk and was taken to the hospital.  This left the other girl walking alone in a bad neighborhood and she was brutally raped and murdered.  Prey and predator – evil people are out there folks.  Good people have the right to leave their windows open and unlocked, walk alone at night, dress in whatever manner they like, but do not be so naïve to think you are free from responsibility when bad things happen as a result of your own carelessness.    

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