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poga
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Posted: 26 February 2008 at 12:47pm |
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Originally posted by Ron Webb
Originally posted by poga
i have given you Fibonacci sequence encoded within the deen of Islam and ask any pi and phi are connected As an amateur mathematician I am well aware of the Fibonacci sequence and the Golden Ratio. I don't know what you mean by "pi and phi" though.
in the Fibonacci sequence how can one get 4 and 19 because it begins with 1123581321
That is exactly my point (and I'm surprised I need to explain this to you). You're simply picking and choosing numbers which happen to fit the Fibonacci sequence. If you had needed a 4, the Madhabs would have provided it. If you needed a 7, you would have cited the seven heavens. And so on. Things get even more arbitrary when you start adding unrelated numbers together to make other numbers. In short, you're making the data fit the theory instead of the other way around. Ron see if you are not blind See and tell me what data did i make and what data was made by my Master MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim I only discovered the sequence and that was enough But for you i had to go again in too the books and collect all the data Now tell which one of this i placed to fit my theory If you cannot do that at least take back what you said But i am grateful to you because of you i collected the data now and placed them in SWEETSWORDS 6 [ Fibonacci Fitna ] 1 ALLAH 1 MUHAMMAD 2 QURAN AND SUNNAH 3 IMAN AMAL AND IHSAAN 5 FIVE PILLERS OF ISLAM 8 AHKAM E ISLAM 13 AHAKAM AND ARKAN 21 SUNNAH IN SALATH 34 SUNNAH [21] AND MUSTAHAB [13] IN SALATH 55 SUNNAH [21] MOQRUH [ 21 ] MUSTAHAB [13] 89 SUNNATH E MUHAQADA [40] SUNNATH E GAIR E MUHAQADA [44]DAILY SALATH [5]
Fibonacci numbers have an interesting property. EHSAN has been explained by the Holy Prophet MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim First KALIMAH KALIMAH TAIYABAH Declaration of Faith La Ilaha Illel La MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH
"There Is no diety except ALLAH and MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim is the Prophet of ALLAH
------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- Second KALIMAH KALIMAH SHAHADAH Declaration of submission and evidence
Third KALIMAH KALIMAH E TAMJEED Declaration of Allaah's Glory
Subhaan-Allahi walhamdu-lillaahi,
"Glory is for Allaah and all Praise is due to ALLAH.
Fourth KALIMAH KALIMAH E TAUHEED Declaration of the Oneness of ALLAH
Fifth KALIMAH KALIMAH RADD E KUFFAR Rejection of atheism
AHKAM: Literally means "orders". In Islam, orders are subdivided into eight distinct categories: 1 Farz acts are those decrees established By QURAN and SUNNAH farz are two kind Farz e Ayin and Farz e Kefaya 2 Wazib acts are like Farz established by authentic DALILS Like witr prayer if you neglect without valid reason it is sin but to refuse is KUFFAR 3 Sunnath acts are beside Farz and Wazib what ever Prophet did 4 Mustahab act are what Prophet some time did some time did not do 5 Halal act are what ever is legal in ISLAMIC SHARIAH 6 Haram act are what ever is iligal in ISLAMIC SHARIAH 7 Mubah act are those neutral acts where there is no religious rulings like traveling on plane 8 Mokruh act are whatISLAM dislikes Mokruh are two kind Mokruh e Tahrimi and Mokruh e Tanzihi ARKAN: Pillars. This refers to the indispensable pillars of Islam. There are five Arkan of Islam: 1. Shahadatain, bearing witness. All Muslims must believe in and utter the Shahadatain. 1). The first Shahada is: Ashhadu an la illaha illal ‘lah. (I bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah.) 2). The Second Shahada: Ashhadu anna Muhammadar Rasoolullah. ( I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.) Singular: Shahada = bearing witness, Dual: shahadatain = Bearing witness. 3. Seeam, fasting. Also spelled as Saum. To fast in the month of Ramadan. 4. Zakat, wealth dues. To pay 2.5% of one’s yearly savings to the poor and needy Muslims. The Zakat is compulsory on all Muslims who have saved (at least) the equivalent of 85g of 24 carat gold at the time when the annual Zakat payment is due. Zakat is also due on other things such as silver, animals, crops, etc. For full explanation on Zakat refer to the relevant books written on the subject. 5. Hajj, pilgrimage. To perform the pilgrimage to the Holy City of Makkah at least once in one’s lifetime (if one is able to afford it).
There are 21 Sunnats in Namaaz
There are 13 MUSTAHAB in Namaaz 1 To look at the place of SAJADAH There is 40 RAKATH of SUNNATH E MUAQADH There is 44 RAKATH of SUNNATH E GAIR E MUAQADAH
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Ron Webb
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Joined: 30 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1403 |
Posted: 26 February 2008 at 4:54pm |
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Originally posted by poga
See and tell me what data did i make and what data was made by my Master MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim You clearly made the data for 13, 34, 55 and 89, by arbitrarily picking certain numbers and adding them together. Or did Allah instruct you to do that? :-)
Now tell which one of this i placed to fit my theory
You placed ALL the numbers in sequence to fit your theory, i.e. the Fibonacci sequence. You did that, not Allah. And you left out 4, 6, 7 and many other significant numbers, because they didn't fit your theory. Unless you have some logical reason OTHER THAN the Fibonacci sequence for choosing the data you did, ordering it the way you did, and leaving out the other data, then your "discovery" that the result is a Fibonacci sequence is no surprise at all. |
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poga
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 5:17am |
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Originally posted by Ron Webb
Originally posted by poga
See and tell me what data did i make and what data was made by my Master MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim You clearly made the data for 13, 34, 55 and 89, by arbitrarily picking certain numbers and adding them together. Or did Allah instruct you to do that? :-)
Now tell which one of this i placed to fit my theory
You placed ALL the numbers in sequence to fit your theory, i.e. the Fibonacci sequence. You did that, not Allah. And you left out 4, 6, 7 and many other significant numbers, because they didn't fit your theory. Unless you have some logical reason OTHER THAN the Fibonacci sequence for choosing the data you did, ordering it the way you did, and leaving out the other data, then your "discovery" that the result is a Fibonacci sequence is no surprise at all. you are a LIAR and that is the TRUTH you know nothing about fibonacci sequence because 4 and 6 is not part of Fibonacci sequence this sequence i wrote from the OUR DEEN i did not get it from your filthy files in ISLAM there is four madhabs now but what madhab was there at the time of Prophet i said in my first post THE DEAF THE DUMB and THE BLIND will never heed and as for i wrote it and placed it to fit my theory as you are KAFFIR you will not know about our DEEN therefore ask any MUSLIM here or anywhere to prove my theory wrong i challenge you will never going to find even one in heaven above or earth bellow
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Israfil
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 9:29am |
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Ron Webb these days Poga hasn't made much sense.
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Ron Webb
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Joined: 30 January 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1403 |
Posted: 27 February 2008 at 10:14am |
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Originally posted by Israfil
Ron Webb these days Poga hasn't made much sense. Well, I blame myself in part, for prolonging this discussion after it has clearly become a waste of bandwidth. But I can't help myself. As-Salamu Alaykum, poga. No hard feelings, I hope. |
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Andalus
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Joined: 12 October 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1187 |
Posted: 27 February 2008 at 8:12pm |
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Originally posted by poga
Originally posted by Ron Webb
Originally posted by poga
See and tell me what data did i make and what data was made by my Master MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim You clearly made the data for 13, 34, 55 and 89, by arbitrarily picking certain numbers and adding them together. Or did Allah instruct you to do that? :-)
Now tell which one of this i placed to fit my theory
You placed ALL the numbers in sequence to fit your theory, i.e. the Fibonacci sequence. You did that, not Allah. And you left out 4, 6, 7 and many other significant numbers, because they didn't fit your theory. Unless you have some logical reason OTHER THAN the Fibonacci sequence for choosing the data you did, ordering it the way you did, and leaving out the other data, then your "discovery" that the result is a Fibonacci sequence is no surprise at all. you are a LIAR and that is the TRUTH you know nothing about fibonacci sequence because 4 and 6 is not part of Fibonacci sequence this sequence i wrote from the OUR DEEN i did not get it from your filthy files in ISLAM there is four madhabs now but what madhab was there at the time of Prophet i said in my first post THE DEAF THE DUMB and THE BLIND will never heed and as for i wrote it and placed it to fit my theory as you are KAFFIR you will not know about our DEEN therefore ask any MUSLIM here or anywhere to prove my theory wrong i challenge you will never going to find even one in heaven above or earth bellow
poga, please refrain from instulting other people. I fail to see how Ron is a liar. You cannot someone a liar for disagreeing with you. After a lot of consideration, and based upon an agreement by other mods, you are being given your first official warning.
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Andalus
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Posted: 27 February 2008 at 8:13pm |
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Originally posted by Ron Webb
Originally posted by Israfil
Ron Webb these days Poga hasn't made much sense. Well, I blame myself in part, for prolonging this discussion after it has clearly become a waste of bandwidth. But I can't help myself. As-Salamu Alaykum, poga. No hard feelings, I hope. I agree! |
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