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Posted: 28 December 2007 at 10:35pm

Originally posted by Salams_wife

Perhaps attacking soldiers is within reason if they are in your country, but how does one justify them blowing themselves up in a market full of civilians in the name of Allah? I have yet to figure this one out.

Some things are hard to explain!

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Posted: 29 December 2007 at 12:51am

Originally posted by Israfil

Your comments are the words of a religious fanatic [of course I'm not saying you are]

Dear Israfil, please go back to the definitions of fanaticism and then weigh my words, please don't use rhetorics without understanding.

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Posted: 29 December 2007 at 1:09am

Originally posted by martha

nu001, is this your version of James Bond 007? Are you a secret agent who has knowledge that we dont have?

You are free to have wild thoughts !!

If so , then please explain the role of the suicide bomber that kills at random? How is this self defence?

Every battle is suicidal for it's participants. Can you guarrantee the life of the US soldiers in the frontlines? Who is a brave soldier in US or any army in a battle? "who does not care for his life and puts his life on the line for other's safety or victory" if you have another definition for the US or UK gallantary awards, please tell me. So the sucide bombers are the bravest people. They are just fighting. That's the technique right now available to fight the enemy, so what's wrong in it? Talk about civilian damage? tell me a war anyone has fought without any civilian casualty? Didnt israelis kill or are not killing civilians in palestine? in Lebanon? in WW1, WW2, Iraq and Afg? where the christian govts are not killing civilians? You just don't have a solution to counter the sucide bombers, so you shout about it.

We know that the western leaders wage wars because of greed and so on. But until the muslimfanatics understand Islam and the Quran correctly the needless cowardly bomber will continue to destroy lives.

and Christians needs to understand bible and follow, then there would be no problems, for sure.

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Posted: 29 December 2007 at 1:15am

Originally posted by martha

I just think its a cowardly way of taking the law into your own hands. So,

how can it be a cowardly way? should be the bravest way !! Isn't your Army brave enough to die in the battle for his/her country?

will there come a time then when an army of Islam invades the world in full view of everyone? This is a serious question now, cos I dont know.

Why this is a question? See stats, how many islamic countries have invaded west in last 1400 years and how many the opposite? If you are thinking of the consequential effect, i am not sure either, if or when it will happen.

salam

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Posted: 30 December 2007 at 2:50pm

murder is murder whether from a unjustified immoral war or from a crazed suicide bomber.

but according to the Christian west when they murder its got nothing to do with being a Christian, but if a Muslim dose something wrong then his religion must be wrong.

just because they don't say "in the name of Christ" before they commit murder dose not mean they are not beliving christians.

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Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:31pm

I believe that the reason why Christians and others believe Islam to be a
warrior-like religion is because your own prophet started and fought many
battles. How do you think he controlled Arabia all the way to North Africa in
less then a generation? The Hadiths and the Koran are specific about this.

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Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:50pm

Oscar you emphasize the word "Christian" when you speak of the West. As a
Christian who lives in the West I don't FEEL it's Christian at all. The
seperation of Church and State in Europe and America means religion is NOT
part of it's economic or political goals. Christian communities who are to this
day suffering under an Islamic regime are not heard yet Kosovo Albanians
are backed up by this "Christian" West. (By the way the Kosovo Albanians are
Muslims in case you didn't know. So are majority of Bosniaks who, with the
help of the West have an independent state.) Enough labeling NATO, The EU,
The US, Canada, and everybody who has one Christian more living in a
country that those policies are Christian. There not. Grow up and get
yourself an education. Try not to sound so foolish.

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Posted: 02 January 2008 at 1:46am

Anatolian

Prophet has fought wars, but you must know that, in all the occassions, he was under attack from the enemy. The attack prophet did finally on Mecca to capture it, as the non believers broke the treaty, was won without any fight.

Have the christians fought any less in europe? invading and colonizing all of the world? your logic of prophet fighting war is poor.

It is true that the church and state is seperate in europe and America, that only has liberated the state in making laws which are against bible. Have no way stopped the christians running the state to think anti Islamic in their christian minds. Establishment of Israel and the entire world politics is anti islamic world, which is of christian minds.

That's why a secular George bush calls for 'crusade' before attacking Iraq and still angelicals are one of the deciding factors in US election, N time theologists still influence US politics, Jewish lobbies are sitting officially in the Capitol hill to influence policies, .................. church and state might have been seperated, majority of the western population might be a christian by name, but the anti islamic policies of the political west hasn't stopped.

So it is ok to call them christians if you look from the other side. Knowledge may have two sides of it, and it depends on which side you are to look foolish or to look Lieish !!!

Though they may not be true christians, if they would understand and follow bible, these problems wouldnot have arisen.

Edited by nu001

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Sign*Reader Senior Member Joined: 02 November 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3352	Posted: 28 December 2007 at 10:35pm
	*Originally posted by Salams_wife* Perhaps attacking soldiers is within reason if they are in your country, but how does one justify them blowing themselves up in a market full of civilians in the name of Allah? I have yet to figure this one out. Some things are hard to explain! Edited by Sign*Reader - 23 March 2010 at 3:54pm
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nu001 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 252	Posted: 29 December 2007 at 12:51am
	*Originally posted by Israfil* Your comments are the words of a religious fanatic [of course I'm not saying you are] Dear Israfil, please go back to the definitions of fanaticism and then weigh my words, please don't use rhetorics without understanding.
	"Al-Quran-The only Straight path to success. Alhamdulillah"
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nu001 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 252	Posted: 29 December 2007 at 1:09am
	*Originally posted by martha* nu001, is this your version of James Bond 007? Are you a secret agent who has knowledge that we dont have? You are free to have wild thoughts !! If so , then please explain the role of the suicide bomber that kills at random? How is this self defence? Every battle is suicidal for it's participants. Can you guarrantee the life of the US soldiers in the frontlines? Who is a brave soldier in US or any army in a battle? "who does not care for his life and puts his life on the line for other's safety or victory" if you have another definition for the US or UK gallantary awards, please tell me. So the sucide bombers are the bravest people. They are just fighting. That's the technique right now available to fight the enemy, so what's wrong in it? Talk about civilian damage? tell me a war anyone has fought without any civilian casualty? Didnt israelis kill or are not killing civilians in palestine? in Lebanon? in WW1, WW2, Iraq and Afg? where the christian govts are not killing civilians? You just don't have a solution to counter the sucide bombers, so you shout about it. We know that the western leaders wage wars because of greed and so on. But until the muslimfanatics understand Islam and the Quran correctly the needless cowardly bomber will continue to destroy lives. and Christians needs to understand bible and follow, then there would be no problems, for sure.
	"Al-Quran-The only Straight path to success. Alhamdulillah"
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nu001 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 252	Posted: 29 December 2007 at 1:15am
	*Originally posted by martha* I just think its a cowardly way of taking the law into your own hands. So, how can it be a cowardly way? should be the bravest way !! Isn't your Army brave enough to die in the battle for his/her country? will there come a time then when an army of Islam invades the world in full view of everyone? This is a serious question now, cos I dont know. Why this is a question? See stats, how many islamic countries have invaded west in last 1400 years and how many the opposite? If you are thinking of the consequential effect, i am not sure either, if or when it will happen. salam Edited by nu001
	"Al-Quran-The only Straight path to success. Alhamdulillah"
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OSCAR Newbie Joined: 29 October 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 33	Posted: 30 December 2007 at 2:50pm
	murder is murder whether from a unjustified immoral war or from a crazed suicide bomber. but according to the Christian west when they murder its got nothing to do with being a Christian, but if a Muslim dose something wrong then his religion must be wrong. just because they don't say "in the name of Christ" before they commit murder dose not mean they are not beliving christians. Edited by OSCAR
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Anatolian Groupie Joined: 12 September 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 67	Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:31pm
	I believe that the reason why Christians and others believe Islam to be a warrior-like religion is because your own prophet started and fought many battles. How do you think he controlled Arabia all the way to North Africa in less then a generation? The Hadiths and the Koran are specific about this.
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Anatolian Groupie Joined: 12 September 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 67	Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:50pm
	Oscar you emphasize the word "Christian" when you speak of the West. As a Christian who lives in the West I don't FEEL it's Christian at all. The seperation of Church and State in Europe and America means religion is NOT part of it's economic or political goals. Christian communities who are to this day suffering under an Islamic regime are not heard yet Kosovo Albanians are backed up by this "Christian" West. (By the way the Kosovo Albanians are Muslims in case you didn't know. So are majority of Bosniaks who, with the help of the West have an independent state.) Enough labeling NATO, The EU, The US, Canada, and everybody who has one Christian more living in a country that those policies are Christian. There not. Grow up and get yourself an education. Try not to sound so foolish.
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nu001 Male Islam Senior Member Joined: 02 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 252	Posted: 02 January 2008 at 1:46am
	Anatolian Prophet has fought wars, but you must know that, in all the occassions, he was under attack from the enemy. The attack prophet did finally on Mecca to capture it, as the non believers broke the treaty, was won without any fight. Have the christians fought any less in europe? invading and colonizing all of the world? your logic of prophet fighting war is poor. It is true that the church and state is seperate in europe and America, that only has liberated the state in making laws which are against bible. Have no way stopped the christians running the state to think anti Islamic in their christian minds. Establishment of Israel and the entire world politics is anti islamic world, which is of christian minds. That's why a secular George bush calls for 'crusade' before attacking Iraq and still angelicals are one of the deciding factors in US election, N time theologists still influence US politics, Jewish lobbies are sitting officially in the Capitol hill to influence policies, .................. church and state might have been seperated, majority of the western population might be a christian by name, but the anti islamic policies of the political west hasn't stopped. So it is ok to call them christians if you look from the other side. Knowledge may have two sides of it, and it depends on which side you are to look foolish or to look Lieish !!! Though they may not be true christians, if they would understand and follow bible, these problems wouldnot have arisen. Edited by nu001
	"Al-Quran-The only Straight path to success. Alhamdulillah"
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