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Quote OSCAR Replybullet Topic: Whose the Terrorist Muslim or Christian?
    Posted: 16 November 2007 at 2:39am

How many Christians civilians got killed in the west by Iraq's and Afghans before Iraq and Afghanistan were bombed and lost over 1 million civilians(UK Medical Lancet Report)?

How is it that openly Committed Christian leaders (Blair Bush, and the rest, Australia Europe) and Christian solders backed buy money and support from Officially Christian countries kill 1 million innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan not be classed as Christian Terrorist when they kill civilians in an unjustified and immoral invasion. 

Could it be that the solders who drop and fire bombs from such great distances somehow feel detached from there actions, and as they seldom see the death and destruction caused, they hold no responsibility nor dose those who gave them the order for the killing.

 Yet its the Muslims that are continually labeled with "Islamic Terrorists" by the west, when a handful of Muslims do something wrong, it seems this is a war on truth.

When dose "following orders" take away the responsibility for an individuals actions, "democracies" have become a very convenient way for individuals not to think about what they are responsible for. Everyone is just "following orders" and the people at the very top have the mandate for war as, "this is what you the people of the country wanted because they voted for me to do it".   

i would love to know how Christian's feel regarding the above as they are always advocating that The Bible teaches Love and Peace. Muslims living in the west never agree with killing Innocent civilians and we have marched and protested to show it. I have not come to know of any major Christian groups marching against deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, if there have been i would like to know. 



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Quote Chelle Replybullet Posted: 21 November 2007 at 8:42pm
I agree with you, it's extremely unfair.  I'm saying this as a former "Christian", now just very confused and searching.
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Quote marchfriday Replybullet Posted: 21 November 2007 at 10:22pm

Yes fact some day will come up, how long unfair can survive; world do have to pay for this unfair.

"Indeed, Allah is with those who fear Him and those who are doers of good."[16: 128]
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Quote OSCAR Replybullet Posted: 22 November 2007 at 2:18am

i wouldn't say its a matter of fair and unfair but whats the truth, and no matter what religion or belief a person believes when truth can be selective, then we can have injustice on a massive scale.

when good people do nothing bad people win

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Quote martha Replybullet Posted: 22 November 2007 at 3:21am

I was once a Christian. I am now muslim. I see both sides of the coin. I agree that Christian leaders act wrong. I also see muslims acting wrong.

Choices have to be made in life. I once asked the question ' if killing is wrong, why do we do it? Sometimes it is necessary to bring about truth. It is not easy to explain.  For every good deed done in life comes a reward. For every crime a punishment. Decyphering justifiable murder is impossible.

As to who is right or wrong, the Christian or muslim, I have no idea. Christ taught love and peace. So did the Prophet Muhammed(pbuH) but sometimes war was necessary to bring about peace. Unfortunately to be rid of any tyrant the innocent also suffer.

Complicated. Very. But we all suffer.

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Quote OSCAR Replybullet Posted: 22 November 2007 at 4:10am

what you say is quite right Muslim have killed innocent civilians and i condemn them for it, as it says in the Quran.

however the thing that is worrying is the silence from the Christian masses, I haven't seen any sizable marches from Christians as to what other Christians are doing. Every time a small group of st**id Muslims do something wrong, Muslim communities around the world are forced to go on marches condemning it and to say that Islam and Muslims dose not accept twisted justifications.



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Quote martha Replybullet Posted: 22 November 2007 at 7:34am

I think. Oscar, the answer to that is that Christians on the whole know that marches dont solve the problem. Marches in the Western world often mean more trouble. I say that because I see and hear the response from them when there has been another march by muslims. I also dont agree with marches. It gives out the wrong signal, regardless of whether they are done peacefully and/or with peace in mind. It evokes bad feelings between Christians and muslims. I really struggle with my feelings when there are any clashes in the world. I say to myself 'here we go again'  Peace will never be achieved by marches. Someone always goes too far and ruins it.

 

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Quote Hayfa Replybullet Posted: 22 November 2007 at 8:16am

Well Oscar.. there have been marches.. and what religion they are.. well I have no idea.

Interesting they did a survey of Christians. And they said they believe that Jesus (PBUH) was for peace. Love the enemy, turn the other cheek etc. But that they beleive that you should ignore those tenents at times.. If this is the "Word of God" and "Jesus is God" how do you then say "God" is wrong?

It is fascinating.  It also depends which "Christians" you ask. The Evangelicals are probably more for the war then the Amish folks (who do not beleive in fighthing). I don't think the Quakers are likely to fight either... it just depends.

 

  

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