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Subject: Words for Feminists
Posted: 20 May 2013 at 10:23pm

Originally posted by abuayisha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYCrwcXPI9I


I don't agree with the speaker. True, there are many extremists in the Feminist movement, that take things too far but that doesn't mean we should undermine the movement itself. Feminism has achieved a lot for women in the western world, and it gets a bad rap in the media. Just because PETA is loco doesn't mean all Animal Right groups or movements are bad. Feminism started off with the objective that women should have similar legal rights as men. What's wrong with that notion? I feel that nowadays the term Feminism has taken a negative connotation.

I think that Feminism basically talks about equal rights and the 'female choice' which is pat of Muslim values and Islam.

Many feminists raise valid points and are doing good. For example, this video:

[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrmRxGLn0Bk]

I really enjoy Feminist Freuency's videos. I agree with 80% of their views. My husband loves video-games, and he agreed that there is un-necessary sexualisation of female characters in video games.






Edited by Chrysalis - 20 May 2013 at 10:28pm]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 22:23:38 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25434&PID=176136#176136 General Discussion : Anyone been to Andalucia http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25408&PID=176131#176131 Author: Hamza Andalucia
Subject: Anyone been to Andalucia
Posted: 20 May 2013 at 1:37pm

Hi Matt. Yes I would agree with you Alhambra is one of the most beautiful buildings in the world.
But when you say taken by force it gives the impression huge armies came over and killed and pillaged and forcefully converted people which if you take a logical look at history simply isn't true. In fact there was one major battle and the rest of the country was taken relatively peacefully. When a city would fall the terms of surrender were so just and fair that the other cities would pretty much open the gates. An original of one of the peace treaties still exists in which the Christian governor is even allowed to remain There were some skirmishes and small battles but nothing major.
It was a divided land of rival kingdoms and principalities when the Muslims arrived, it never existed as one single entity until 17th/18th century.
In fact it was the Christian King Julian of Ceuta who asked the Muslim governor of Africa to help him take revenge against King Roderick who had raped Julians daughter in Toledo. During the battle Julians army switched sides and helped the Muslims defeat Roderick.
At the time of the Muslim conquest the Jews were being persecuted, on the verge of being wiped out actually, along with the unitarians and the general population were virtual slaves whereby they owned nothing and had very few freedoms. Its because their situation improved after the Islamic conquest that there was no uprisings or attempts to throw the Muslims out. Remember there were no large numbers of Muslims flocking to Spain it was very few men which came in the initial crossing. Europe was not the place to be at that time. So it was one thing to take the land but then to hold onto it would have been virtually impossible with the small numbers of Muslims. If the local population was not happy with the situation they would have managed to overthrow their 'occupiers' sooner or later.
I think it was Rheinhardt Dozy who said the Islamic conquest of Spain was a force of liberation.

Yes in some ways the local non Muslim population were treated like second class citizens but in relative terms the freedoms and rights given to them were unheard of especially in Europe.
We all know what happened 750 odd years later after fall of Granada in 1492. I would take being a so called second class citizen anytime. ]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 13:37:08 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25408&PID=176131#176131 General Discussion : Hijab - Freedom NOT Oppression : Opinion http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23532&PID=176126#176126 Author: Matt Browne
Subject: Hijab - Freedom NOT Oppression : Opinion
Posted: 20 May 2013 at 9:51am

Where's Nausheen?]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 09:51:23 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23532&PID=176126#176126 General Discussion : Dr. Hawking http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25352&PID=176125#176125 Author: Matt Browne
Subject: Dr. Hawking
Posted: 20 May 2013 at 9:49am

There are pros and cons for such a boycott. I support the state of Israel, but I reject the politics of the current Israeli government. I sincerely hope that the Israeli voters choose a more moderate government at the next elections. I can say the same thing for the Gaza strip. We need a moderate government there too. Hamas is a terrorist group.

]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 09:49:09 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25352&PID=176125#176125 General Discussion : Anyone been to Andalucia http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25408&PID=176124#176124 Author: Matt Browne
Subject: Anyone been to Andalucia
Posted: 20 May 2013 at 9:44am

Yes, twice. Malaga, Seville, Cordoba, Granada. I think the Alhambra is one of the most beautiful buildings in the world.

We should not forget that Spain was taken by force and the Muslim rulers treated non-Muslims like second-class citizens. Their system is not a good model for the modern world.

]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 09:44:36 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25408&PID=176124#176124 General Discussion : Words for Feminists http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25434&PID=176123#176123 Author: Matt Browne
Subject: Words for Feminists
Posted: 20 May 2013 at 9:40am

I disagree with many of her messages.

Without the feminism movement, women would still not be able to vote, drive a car, open a bank account, or broadcast a Youtube video like this one.

]]> Mon, 20 May 2013 09:40:57 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25434&PID=176123#176123 General Discussion : Words for Feminists http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25434&PID=176094#176094 Author: abuayisha
Subject: Words for Feminists
Posted: 18 May 2013 at 10:56am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYCrwcXPI9I]]> Sat, 18 May 2013 10:56:01 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25434&PID=176094#176094 General Discussion : Anyone been to Andalucia http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25408&PID=176033#176033 Author: Hamza Andalucia
Subject: Anyone been to Andalucia
Posted: 15 May 2013 at 7:19am

Asalaamu'alaikum Wr Wb

I just want to know how many people out there have been to Andalucia, Spain? My family and i have been running tours to Spain for the past 12 years and i'm intrigued to know how many people out there have actually been and how many people know about the rich history of Islam in Spain. We have many people who say we did not know that Spain used to be a muslim country even though Islam was there for nearly 800 years (711-1492). I would also like to hear from anyone that has been on one of our tours

www.islamic-spain.com]]> Wed, 15 May 2013 07:19:13 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=25408&PID=176033#176033 General Discussion : common misconception regarding Allah http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24548&PID=175982#175982 Author: Caringheart
Subject: common misconception regarding Allah
Posted: 12 May 2013 at 7:08pm

Originally posted by nothing

I think it is really up to us to work it out.

Greetings nothing,

I think you are correct. 
However, did you skip over my second post?
Do you think it is right that God will accept into His kingdom those who while on earth were willing to deny Him?

Salaam to you, and thanks for this discussion,
Caringheart


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Subject: common misconception regarding Allah
Posted: 12 May 2013 at 5:54pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

(the words of Yeshua)


This verses above have no connection with the topic you raised Caringheart, which is concerning for any person under duress. It actually strengthening your original statement that stated the Holy Spirit is the uncompromising God even when dealing with weak creatures who are under intense pressure.

Sure there always people who can withstand pressure, but how about the weaker one, will the Holy Spirit still unmoved when seeing his subjects in agony? Because if it is for me to decide I will be very lenient, considering I (always) expect nothing in return anywaySmile. But who am I here, I don't know how his domain works, maybe we are expected to do the same? If it is good enough for him than it is good enough for his subjects to act alike no?

I think it is really up to us to work it out.

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