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   <title>General Islamic Matter : Help finding comfort, and allah.</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54219">seekshidayath</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Help finding comfort, and allah.<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 10:45pm<br /><br />Had been waiting for your answer. ANyways<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>My dear brother, i can understand, how tough we feel, when we are into problems. It may be easy for me to suggest you this and that, but the one who suffers -- only Allah swt knows his conditions.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>What do i do : First i try to take it easy. But when i feel, i cannot, and feel helpless&nbsp;i write up my problem to a very good friend&nbsp; and get an idea, what am into, and how the situation is. I don't wait for his advice or solution, because now i head towards the&nbsp;Creator who says in the Qur'an, </DIV><P style="DIRECTI&#079;N: ltr; unicode-bidi: ; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-KASHIDA: 0%"><strong>“Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: ‘We believe,’ and will not be tested"</strong></P><DIV></DIV><DIV>I then realise, oh am into trial from Allah swt and so be brave. This problem shall be over one day, but what remains is our approach towards it. So i try to be with patience praing Allah swt that i do not commit any such act during these days, that may make Allah swt sad of me. I shud get 100/100.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Allah swt tests us only with the burden we can handle. The more stronger our faith is, the same stronger shall be the trial from Allah swt. Allah swt , says am with the sabiroons {one who is with patience}. So i get lot and lots of confidence and courage that Allah swt is with me and then move on.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Also remember, that these tests from Allah swt, are expiations for our sins too. Is it not the mercy that instead of that hell of fire, we get our sins expiated with these mere tests, which may seem as huge as mountains then. But then, imagine hell-fire !!!! Its even hard for us to imagine. Is n't it.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Whenever we are afflicted, we are to look at its brighter side. Be optimistic then. I remember reading it elsewhere that when you are handed a glass full of squeezed lemons, add handful of sugar to it. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Do you know, during a revoltion two poets were imprisioned.One was an optimist and other pessimist. They both took there heads out, thru the bars of their cell windows. The optimist stared at the sky and laughed, while the pessimist&nbsp; looked at the dirty roads and wept. Thats the difference of there approaches. We are look at its other side and try to find its goodness from Allah swt.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Never complain or get angry/ frustrated over the situation, because that was already decreed to us by Allah swt. Sometimes, it happens that the problem we are in, is because of our sins itself. Allah swt says such in the Qur'an. So keep repenting at such times frequently.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The next thing you must have experienced that these days that person who is afflicted, gets more and more closer to Allah swt&nbsp; than any other time.&nbsp; We find a sort of happiness and peace, which we get no where. Allah swt does send us tranquility. What else do we need that we get closer to Allah swt. !!! We&nbsp; are&nbsp; to spend more time in seclusion and making prayers, reciting Qur'an more than often, or with fastings or making secret charity, helping the needy ---etc.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Never despair or panic. Satan tries his best to make you impatient thru his whisperings. Like, you wished Allah swt to get revealed before you. Just recite "La hawla wala quwwat ---".</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Tears are followed by a smile, as said, after every hardship there is relief. Have complete trust in Allah swt, and be with patience. Insha Allah , Allah swt shall ease off those problems. Take these reminders, whenever you feel low, ALso recall this hadith "WHoever&nbsp; Allah swt wishes good for, He inflicts him with hardship"</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Few problems needs lots of patience, Just adopt the policy of "wait and watch". Its said that sometimes time is the solution. By the passage of the time, the problem too gets over. Anyways, i pray Allah swt to ease your problem and help you face it with patience by being steadfast over deen. Your righteous friends may also stand with you at these times. So seek there company as well.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>World Politics : Why do muslim countries not have strong economy?</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53420">Sign*Reader</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Why do muslim countries not have strong economy?<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 10:18pm<br /><br />I have a hypothesis about the Afghan freedom fighters for not letting their woman folks go to American funded school system....<br><br>They need the replacement of the lost fighters killed during the occupation of last seven and a general state of war for last fifty years!<br>The merciless carpet bombing of that country in the beginning of the invasion.... and air strikes do kill large number of men, woman and children on regular basis... even at weddings and funerals so what plan will make up the dead?<br>The population ratio of the invading countries vis- a- vis Afghanistan is 20 to 1 and it is quite remarkable that they have hung in there against such odds!<br>So do you think the educated women would have played the role of making up the losses? NOT really! <br><br>Look around here in the US they can't make the quotas, they have been sending any alien they could find legal or not .....I am told they are sending&nbsp; felons from American jails to go target practice on the Iraqis / Afghans and earn a parole! <br>Who is checking on the contracted killers? Lkes of Blackwater etc<br>I may be wrong till some one provides a better long term human resource strategy during a protracted war....it is survival of the fittest and it is not an issue you and I discuss at the dinner table!<br><br>If nothing else the war has destroyed US balance of payments and turned her&nbsp; into a shameless beggar ... political pendulum has swung in the opposite direction as well with a&nbsp; POTUS educated by the profs of 60's radicalism and nurtured by leftist Zionism! <br>To make things worse while people were having a ball with easy money the banksters pulled the rug from under them with greatest heist in Caplitalism's history and now the capitalist world is down its knees!<br>I think the Afghan and Iraqi freedom fighters have put the US in the same spot as the USSR after her exit from that place!<br>For a nice comparison please:<br>Click <a href="http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259" target="_blank">"Collapse Gap"</a><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Sign*Reader - Today at 10:58pm</span>]]>
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   <title>General Islamic Matter : Let&#039;s Try Part 3</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54219">seekshidayath</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let&#039;s Try Part 3<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 9:35pm<br /><br /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>Next Question :</strong></DIV><DIV><strong></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>How did the idol worship get started ?</strong></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>General Islamic Matter : Let&#039;s Try Part 3</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54219">seekshidayath</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Let&#039;s Try Part 3<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 9:34pm<br /><br />Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Sister Alwardah, you are one of the oldest member, who is associated with this thread. Your intrest towards this thread, and helping us to gain more knowledge thru your discussions, and correcting us when we are wrong, were immense contributions to it. JazakiAllahu khayr, that you are here at IC, for attending this thread. May Allah swt, accept all your efforts towards it and bless you, in dunya and aakhirah.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Coming to the answer, : Abdullah ibn Masud RA is the correct answer.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I would like to share this passage from the discussion of sahabas</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>When the Sahabah (radiAllahu anhum) were very few in Makkah, weak and oppressed, one day they said, <strong>"The Quraysh have not heard the Qur'an being recited loudly, Who can do it?" </strong></DIV><DIV><strong></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>"I will do it" said Abdullah Ibn Masud.</strong></DIV><DIV><BR>This was a big task. The Sahabah were afraid for him because he did not have any tribe to protect him. The Quraysh could easily attack and harm Abdullah ibn Mas'ud if he started to read the Qur'an for everyone to hear.</DIV><DIV>But Ibn Masud said, "Allah will keep me safe from their mischief". </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>Ibn Masud went to the Kab'ah where some of the Quraysh were gathered and started reciting Surah Ar-Rahman of the Qur'an. </strong></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>When the Quraysh realised he was reciting the Qur'an, they came over to him, and started beating him till he bled. However, although he was very swollen and bruised, he finished reciting the Surah. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The Sahabah were sorry for Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud when they saw his condition, but Abdullah ibn Mas'ud said, "By Allah, the enemies of Allah are more uncomfortable than me, and I would go and do it again." </DIV><DIV>The sahabah said, "It is enough." </DIV><DIV><BR>Ibn Mas'ud had excellent manners and he loved to make sacrifices for Allah's sake. He took part in all the major battles of Islam with Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu alayhi wasalam). </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>SubhanAllah ! What a sahabah, he was ! So did Allah agree with him. </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>May Allah swt also help us to beautify our characters like this and make sacrifices for the sake of Allah swt. Ameen</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>JazakiAllahu khayr sister Sakeenah for answering it correct. May Allah swt also reward you for being active and helping us to move forward.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Sister Chrysallis and bro. Saladin ! where are you ?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53420">Sign*Reader</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Why do muslim countries not have strong economy?<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 9:08pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Hyposonic</strong></em><br /><br />"Everyone has to have 2 cars, a big house, a pool, new TV, expensive toys.&nbsp; There kids have to be in soccer, ballet, karate, music lessons and no one sits down and has dinner together anymore."<div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>(Looks around)</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Um, where do you ge tthe idea that "we" have that?<br></div></div><br>That is middle class living in say western US!<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Groups &#8211; Women (Sisters) : To My Dear Friends...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=51697">abuayisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> To My Dear Friends...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 8:19pm<br /><br /><P =Ms&#111;normal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">"The one who brought up two girls till they attained their maturity, will appear along with me on the Resurrection Day ... Saying this the Holy Prophet jointed and raised his fingers. (Muslim). <BR>"The one who brought up three daughters, or sisters, taught then good manners and treated them with kindness until they became self-sufficient. AIlah will make <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Paradise</st1:place> obligatory for him. A man asked: what about two, O Messenger of Allah? The Holy Prophet replied: the same for two." Ibn `Abbas, the reporter of the Hadith, says: "Had the people at that time asked in respect of one daughter, the Holy Prophet would have also given the same reply about her. " (Sharh as-Sunnh). <BR>"The one who has a daughter born to him and he does not bury her alive, nor keeps her in disgrace, nor prefers his son to her, Allah will admit him to <st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Paradise</st1:place>." (Abu Da'ud). <BR>"The one who has three daughters born to him, and he is patient over them, and clothes them well according to his means, they will become a means of rescue for him from Hell. " (Bukhari, Al-Adab al-Mufrad, Ibn Majah). <BR>"The Muslim who has two daughters and he looks after them well, they will lead him to <st1:place w:st="&#111;n">Paradise</st1:place>." (Bukhari: Al-Adab al-Mufrad). <BR>The Holy Prophet said to Suraqah bin Ju'sham: "Should I tell you what is the greatest charity (or said: one of the greatest charities)? He said: Kindly do tell, O Messenger of Allah. The Holy Prophet said: Your daughter who (after being divorced or widowed) returns to you and should have no other bread-winner." (Ibn Majah, Bukhari Al-Adab al-Mufrad). <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></SPAN></P>]]>
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   <title>General Discussion : Cairo teens arrested for &#039;flirting&#039;</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=50415">Angel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Cairo teens arrested for &#039;flirting&#039;<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 7:17pm<br /><br /><P>Egyptian police have rounded up hundreds of teenage boys in Cairo in a day-long crackdown on sexual harassment.</P><P>"We have arrested a large number of boys who were flirting with girls," Cairo's police director Faruq Lashin said.</P><P>About 400 teenagers, aged between 15 and 17, were arrested on Wednesday and will be brought before a judge, he said.</P><P>Police targeted teenagers in front of schools, universities and along the Nile's banks, he said.</P><P>The teenagers were expected to be fined, a police official said.</P><P>Women's rights groups in Egypt have long campaigned against sexual harassment and assault in Cairo, accusing police of ignoring the phenomenon.</P><P>On Monday, a Cairo court jailed a teenager for one year for sexually assaulting two women. Another teenager, a 17 year old, is facing trial on the same charge.</P><P>At least 34 men were arrested after they allegedly assaulted women in an affluent Cairo neighbourhood during a Muslim holiday in January.</P><P>Such convictions are relatively rare in Egypt , which does not have a law defining sexual harassment, but a court in October sentenced a man to three years in jail for groping a woman.</P><P>Women's rights activists welcomed that ruling and said it was unprecedented in Egypt .</P><P>The Egyptian Centre for Women's Rights (ECWR) issued a survey this summer saying 83 per cent of Egyptian women and 98 per cent of foreign women in Egypt had experienced sexual harassment.</P><P>The study said only 12 per cent of the 2,500 women who reported cases of sexual harassment to ECWR went to the police with their complaint.</P><DIV></DIV><DIV><a href="http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/5160649/cairo-teens-arrested-flirting/" target="_blank">http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/5160649/cairo-teens-arrested-flirting/</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New, Courier, mono" color=#000099 size=3>I guess that is good if its that bad. Although it is a very worrying thought that its&nbsp;boys 15 - 17 years old. </FONT></DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>General Islamic Matter : Love and Religion conflicts=help!</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=60021">thomasd</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Love and Religion conflicts=help!<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 6:43pm<br /><br />hello everyone! I just returned from my visitation to the west coast, where I spent 4 of my 6 weeks staying with her family. her uncle, her, and i had several excellent discussions comparing the theologies of Islam and Christianity. they were also kind enough to give me an english translation of the Qur'an as a gift, which will likely lead to some interesting discussions in the topic that seekshidayath was kind enough to start for me. in the meantime I had on question that seemed particularly suited to the discussion in this topic as to whether or not I am a "believer" by Islamic standards.<br>1) there were several places in the Qur'an (I *think* in the chapter discussing Jesus's family history....I don't remember what it was called), that acknowledged us "people of the book" as believers in God.<br>2) I have, over the course of the last 2 months, had Islam repeatedly defined to me as nothing more or less than submission to God, something which I strive to achieve (as does anyone who has a true faith in him)<br>3) I recently read that history shows that Muhammed viewed the Jews and Christians as his natural allies, sharing his core beliefs, and that this was part of the motivation for his move to Medina.<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by thomasd - Today at 6:44pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=59497">Shasta'sAunt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> To My Dear Friends...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 6:30pm<br /><br /><P>Don't cry...... although it makes me cry too.<img src="http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Cry" /></P>]]>
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   <title>Islamic Interfaith Dialogue : From where did the trinity teaching come?</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=60021">thomasd</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> From where did the trinity teaching come?<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 November 2008 at 6:23pm<br /><br />hey everyone, I know I dropped out of this discussion&nbsp; a while back, but I finally managed to find what are likely the roots of the belief in the trinity, and its definitely from the Jewish religion, not pagan or greek as some in this thread have claimed.<br><br>this page: http://www.layevangelism.com/qreference/chapter10e.htm<br><br>has a lot of discussion and references. (don't mind the atrocious color scheme!)<br>]]>
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