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   <title>The Speed Of The God&#039;s Affair And The Angels : Reepicheep, you start out with...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=63300">schmikbob</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24475<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2013 at 8:01pm<br /><br />Reepicheep, you start out with this statement in the Quran <DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><EM>He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth: in the end will (all affairs) go up to Him, on a <strong>Day</strong>, the space whereof will be (as) a <strong>thousand years</strong> of your reckoning.&nbsp; Surah 32:5</EM></DIV><DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><EM>and then go on&nbsp;to discuss how a calculation for the speed of light can possibly, maybe, sort of be&nbsp;reached from this statement.&nbsp; I defy you to find me an Imam that will define this statement to have some possible calculation of the speed of light in it.&nbsp; The only way to reach these conclusions from three&nbsp;short sentences&nbsp;is to twist and distort their original meaning to their absolute breaking point and beyond.</EM></DIV><DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <title>The Speed Of The God&#039;s Affair And The Angels : Anas bin Malik and Abu Hurayrah...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=51697">abuayisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24475<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2013 at 2:50pm<br /><br />Anas bin Malik and Abu Hurayrah narrated that the Messenger of Allah would say:<br /><br />&#1575;&#1604;&#1604;&#1607;&#1605; &#1573;&#1606;&#1610; &#1571;&#1593;&#1608;&#1584; &#1576;&#1603; &#1605;&#1606; &#1593;&#1604;&#1605; &#1604;&#1575; &#1610;&#1606;&#1601;&#1593; &#1608;&#1605;&#1606; &#1602;&#1604;&#1576; &#1604;&#1575; &#1610;&#1582;&#1588;&#1593; &#1608;&#1605;&#1606; &#1583;&#1593;&#1575;&#1569; &#1604;&#1575; &#1610;&#1587;&#1605;&#1593; &#1608;&#1605;&#1606; &#1606;&#1601;&#1587; &#1604;&#1575; &#1578;&#1588;&#1576;&#1593;<br /><br />&#1616;Allahumma inni a'udhu bika min 'ilmin la yanfa' wa min qalbin ya yakhsha' wa min du'a'in la yusma' wa min nafsin la tashba'<br /><br />"O Allah! I seek refuge with You from knowledge that does not benefit, and from a heart that is not subdued and humble, and from a supplication that is not heard, and from a self that is not satisfied."<br /><br />And he would then say: "O Allah! I seek refuge with You from these four things."<br /><br />&#091;Reported by an-Nasa'i (5470, 5536 & 5537) and Abu Dawud (1548), and it is sahih&#093;]]>
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   <title>The Speed Of The God&#039;s Affair And The Angels : schmikbob wrote: And your point...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=55605">Reepicheep</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24475<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2013 at 1:54pm<br /><br /><strong>schmikbob wrote: And your point here is what exactly, besides the US faked the moon landings???</strong> <DIV></DIV><strong>&nbsp;</strong> <DIV>Believe it or not, there is actually something mildly interesting buried within the gobblygook.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The basic claim is that, using a particular verse in the koran, it is possible to calculate the speed of light as being:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=2><strong>299792.5 km/sec</strong></FONT></DIV><DIV><strong><FONT size=2></FONT></strong>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=2>The most accurate values for the speed of light that science can come up with are:</FONT></DIV><DIV><P><FONT size=2 face=verdana,aer><strong>US National Bureau of Standards: &nbsp;299792.4574 +/- 0.0011 km/sec</strong></FONT> <P><FONT size=2 face=verdana,aer><strong>British National Physical Laboratory: 299792.4590 +/- 0.0008 km/s</strong></P><DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV>So, the conclusion is that the value for the speed of light, as given in the koran, is accurate to within approximately 0.04 km/sec of the current, best scientific values. <DIV></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>*********</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The logic behind this calculation can be found in many places on the web, including the following webpage on the Islamicity website:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><a href="http://www.islamicity.com/Science/960703A.SHTML" target="_blank">http://www.islamicity.com/Science/960703A.SHTML</A></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>A couple of years ago I was sufficiently curious about the calculation that I actually followed the equations through to the end (I started out my university education in Honours Physics, before I came to my senses and switched to computer science).&nbsp; The basic argument starts with the following verse from the koran:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><EM>He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth: in the end will (all affairs) go up to Him, on a <strong>Day</strong>, the space whereof will be (as) a <strong>thousand years</strong> of your reckoning.&nbsp; Surah 32:5</EM></DIV><DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>From this verse, the following statement is derived:</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><EM><strong>The distance light travels in one day is equal to the distance the moon travels in 1000 years.</strong></EM></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Through some convoluted logic which is more or less valid, the author of the document succeeds in coming up with a value for the speed of light which is around 10% higher than the actual speed of light (i.e, the author proves, more or less, that the distance the moon travels in 900 years is approximately equal to the distance light travels in one day).</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>OK, fine.&nbsp; This is a mildly interesting result, but certainly not miraculous.&nbsp; Even though the&nbsp;author had to&nbsp;"bend" the truth in order to make his result that close, he didn't "break" the truth.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>To make the calculation miraculous, the author&nbsp;then proceeds&nbsp;to introduce a "correction" term which he claims is needed due to the "2nd postulate of special relativity".&nbsp; This correction term is (according to him):</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><strong>cos 26.92848 = 0.89157</strong></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>By introducing this "correction", the value for the speed of light as given in the koran becomes exact.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>***************</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The entire&nbsp;calculation is nonsense, of course, but at least it is entertaining nonsense.&nbsp; There are many, many rebuttals to this calculation on the web; a google search for SPEED OF LIGHT KORAN will bring up many of them.</FONT></DIV></DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Reepicheep - 19 January 2013 at 1:57pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71685">TSontani</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24475<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 December 2012 at 6:30pm<br /><br /><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <o:OfficeSettings>  <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeSettings></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">My pointwas just try to explain the difference between the term of a day in QS 32:5 andQS 70:4 by comparing the terms of a day at the Moon and at the Venus. 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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71685">TSontani</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24475<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 December 2012 at 10:44pm<br /><br /><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <o:OfficeSettings>  <o:Rely&#079;nVML/>  <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeSettings></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">Assalamu’alaikumWarakhmatullahi Wabarakatuh,</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">WhenI tried to answer the statement that Qur’an inconsistant, one of which isbetween</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">&nbsp;</span></p><h1 style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-21.3pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">a.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma">Surah 32 (As Sajdah</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">/</span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"></span></span><span ="subeng"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">The Prostration</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma">), </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Verse</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">5:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"></span></h1><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">He directs the whole affair from heaven to earth, then(this affair) ascend to Him <u>in a day</u> <u>which the measure is a thousandyears of your reckoning</u>.</span></i></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><h1 style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-21.3pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">b.<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma">Surah 70 (</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">Al-Ma`</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">&#257;</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">rij/<span ="subeng">TheAscending Stairways</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma">), </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Verse</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">4:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"></span></h1><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">The Angels and Jibril/Gabriel ascend (facing) to God in aday whereof fifty thousand years.</span></i></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">Theanswer that I have planned is:</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"></span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">Neil Armstrong, anUnited States Astronaut in July 1969 landed on the Moon during the day whereofwas 27.321661 twenty seven point three two one six six one days to thecalculations of the inhabitants of the Earth. Astronaut Neil Armstrong was apride of the United States, because he was the first to land on the Moon anddeliver United States outperformed the Soviet Union as its competitors. But onyoutube a lot with all the analysis stated that these events are just a figmentof the thumb. Until now I still don't believe that NASA, which became thereference of many scientists lying?</span></li><li><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN">The space agencies of</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN"> <span ="hps">other</span> <span ="hps">countries</span> <span ="hps">areplanning a</span> <span ="hps">manned mission to land</span> <span ="hps">on Venus</span>, the planet of <span ="hps">the</span> <span ="hps">levels of</span> <span ="hps">the day</span>, <span ="hps">is</span><span ="hps">the same as the</span> <span ="hps">day of</span> <span ="hps">reckoning</span> <span ="hps">-243.0187</span> <span ="hps">the</span><span ="hps">Earth</span>. </span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">Minus </span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN">as a sign</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN"> <span ="hps">that</span> <span ="hps">Venus</span> <span ="hps">rotates</span> <span ="hps">clockwise</span><span ="hps"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>direction</span>. <span ="hps">And it turns out planet Venus is not beautiful </span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">woman </span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN">like the goddess Venus </span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">that </span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN">was depicted by the </span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">m</span></span><span ="hps"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN" lang="EN">aster art in the past, Venus is the planet of death.</span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"></span></li></ul><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">But whengoogling to get the period day of the planets in the Solar system, accidentallyI even found the article "A New Astronomical Quranic Method for TheDetermination Of The Greatest Speed C" paper of mr. </span><strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;color:#010101;font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold">HassanHassab-Elnaby,&nbsp; Ph.D.</span></strong><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic"> (</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;"><a href="http://www.islamicity.org/Science/960703A.HTM" target="_blank"><span style="mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic" lang="EN-US">http://www.islamicity.org/Science/960703A.HTM</span></a><span style="mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">), a Physicsexperts from Egypt. Assalaamu’alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Prof, may Godbless You and thankyou for the articles.</span></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">From theresults of His analysis and calculations, then the speed of the"Affair" in the above Qur’an Surah 32 Verse 5 is equal to the speedof light or equal to </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic" lang="EN-US">299792</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-ansi-:EN-US;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic" lang="EN-US">5km/</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:italic">second</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">. Try to compare with:</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">C = 299792.4574 + 0.0011km/sec = speed of light measurement results of "US National Bureau ofStandards".</span></li></ul><ul><li><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;mso-fareast-font-family:Wingdings;mso-bidi-font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore"><span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"></span></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">C = 299792.4590 + 0.0008km/sec = speed of light measurement results of "The British NationalPhysical Laboratory".</span></li></ul><p ="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:28.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">But in my opinion mr. Mansour Hassan Hassab-Elnaby,Ph.D. has tended to adjust the speed of the "Affair" with the speedof light human measurement results. Due to travel to the Sun it takes 500seconds or about 8.34 minutes, sorry it’s too slow. </span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">If myunderstanding of the "affair" was synonymous with "data"that can be either command/message/information/control or anything that iscurrently shipped by first converted into electromagnetic signal was true. Thenthe speed of the "affair" is more or less = 29.5 x 12 x 1000 x thespeed of light = 354,000 x the speed of light/electromagnetic.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>It's very far from the reach of the humanbrain at the time, so now I understand why the Prophet Muhammad having highfever every receive revelation of God. In that era, the speed of the"affair" is equal to the speed of a horse or as fastest as the speedof the Dove.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calligraph421 BT&quot;">Ouch I soshaking, because the speed of the Angels and Angel Gabriel = 50 x 354,000 speedof light = 17,700,000 x the speed of light. 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