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Subject: 24420
Posted: 02 May 2013 at 2:32pm

Salam,
I always thought that giving gifts was a good things, it increases love. I still do, I do believe it is a good thing and in Islam we are encouraged to do good.
Here is website or two that I found about gift giving:


http://www.dalail.co.uk/gifts.htm

http://islamqa.info/en/ref/85108


Hasan


Edited by honeto - 02 May 2013 at 2:39pm]]> Thu, 02 May 2013 14:32:25 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=175823#175823 a question : Originally posted by nothing Originally... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=175203#175203 Author: Rational
Subject: 24420
Posted: 04 April 2013 at 5:19pm

Originally posted by nothing

Originally posted by Nausheen

Bismillah,
Assalamualaikum Hasan and Nothing,

I found it a bit odd in your posts, if you don't mind, why do you refuse gifts?

My Shaykh insists one to take gifts and thank people much for the same. He rests this practice on the fact that 'one who does not thank people has not thanked Allah

A gift is only to be given to those in needs, up to this moment I am not in need, alhamdulillah.
If you, Nausheen, you were a minister with portfolio and a bussinessman came to you with a gift, you know with certainty that that is not a gift. On the opposite side if you are a business woman giving a gift to a politician than you know than it is not a gift either. It is a well known practice to smoothen the bumpy road, and bypassing them in the queue.

But there is another one different. Last week I picked my daughter from school and I asked her what she learned that day? and she said "Islamic Art". And she pulled a board from her bag with the word Allah on it, and she said "I made this for you". If I were to give that piece to anyone no one would take it, it is a worthless piece for anyone. I hug her and I hug the board, and it is on the wall now. See the difference?

I am sorry to disagree with the Sheikh, my experience and my observation tell me it is a bribe.

Was salaamu alaikum.

Assalamo Alaik nothing,

Jazak Allahu Khairun brother. That's very educational and food for thought. You make perfect sense.
]]> Thu, 04 Apr 2013 17:19:36 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=175203#175203 a question : Originally posted by iec786Hi... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171723#171723 Author: Caringheart
Subject: 24420
Posted: 19 December 2012 at 12:26am

Originally posted by iec786

Hi caringheart,

thank you for the welcome

Are we not all of us (on this forum at least) seeking after God?
Some are and some are not.
most are here as missionaries trying to Bible thump instead of here to learn.
Ismail


or Qur'an thump?
I have a much more positive attitude.  I think we are here because we are all seeking to follow God.
I am here because I want us to understand each other.

Salaam,
CH

You're welcome for the welcome Smile ...  happy to know you made it safely there and back.  You were away a long time.
]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:26:09 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171723#171723 a question : Hi caringheart, thank you for... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171721#171721 Author: iec786
Subject: 24420
Posted: 18 December 2012 at 8:40pm

Hi caringheart,

thank you for the welcome

Are we not all of us (on this forum at least) seeking after God?
Some are and some are not.
most are here as missionaries trying to Bible thump instead of here to learn.
Ismail]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2012 20:40:47 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171721#171721 a question : Greetings Ismael,Welcome back.Are... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171578#171578 Author: Caringheart
Subject: 24420
Posted: 16 December 2012 at 3:05pm

Greetings Ismael,
Welcome back.

Are we not all of us (on this forum at least) seeking after God?
You see, I don't think we are that different. Smile

Caringheart
]]> Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:05:04 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171578#171578 a question : Hi all, no human has my fingerprints.I... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171502#171502 Author: iec786
Subject: 24420
Posted: 15 December 2012 at 1:32pm

Hi all,

no human has my fingerprints.I am unique.So yes i am not the same as you people.Anyone the same as me?????

Come on Caringheart,our thinking is not the same our color is not the same our nation is not the same our tribe is not the same our children are not the same.]]> Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:32:05 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171502#171502 a question : Originally posted by nothing Originally... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171363#171363 Author: Nausheen
Subject: 24420
Posted: 11 December 2012 at 12:52am

Originally posted by nothing


Originally posted by Nausheen

Bismillah,
Assalamualaikum Hasan and Nothing,

I found it a bit odd in your posts, if you don't mind, why do you refuse gifts?

My Shaykh insists one to take gifts and thank people much for the same. He rests this practice on the fact that 'one who does not thank people has not thanked Allah
A gift is only to be given to those in needs, up to this moment I am not in need, alhamdulillah. If you, Nausheen, you were a minister with portfolio and a bussinessman came to you with a gift, you know with certainty that that is not a gift. On the opposite side if you are a business woman giving a gift to a politician than you know than it is not a gift either. It is a well known practice to smoothen the bumpy road, and bypassing them in the<span ="hw "><span =" "> queue</span></span>. But there is another one different. Last week I picked my daughter from school and I asked her what she learned that day? and she said "Islamic Art". And she pulled a board from her bag with the word Allah on it, and she said "I made this for you". If I were to give that piece to anyone no one would take it, it is a worthless piece for anyone. I hug her and I hug the board, and it is on the wall now. See the difference? I am sorry to disagree with the Sheikh, my experience and my observation tell me it is a bribe. Was salaamu alaikum.



Thank you Nothing.
I wouldn't call a bribe gift, nor would understand bribe when a gift is mentioned.

I do see the difference.
A gift is something prepared with care for the special person in mind - and when such a person offers me something, I can see the emotions that have gone into it.
On some occasions I have given small tokens as a sign of friendship and ppl have accepted it saying its not the value rather the sentiment that matters ... to me a 'gift'is always something which carries sentiments.

The shaykh does not promote exchange of bribes - calling it a gift is a misnomer and disregard of sentiments a gift carries.

jazak Allahu khair.
]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:52:44 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171363#171363 a question : Originally posted by Naush... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171352#171352 Author: nothing
Subject: 24420
Posted: 10 December 2012 at 4:51pm

Originally posted by Nausheen

Bismillah,
Assalamualaikum Hasan and Nothing,

I found it a bit odd in your posts, if you don't mind, why do you refuse gifts?

My Shaykh insists one to take gifts and thank people much for the same. He rests this practice on the fact that 'one who does not thank people has not thanked Allah

A gift is only to be given to those in needs, up to this moment I am not in need, alhamdulillah.
If you, Nausheen, you were a minister with portfolio and a bussinessman came to you with a gift, you know with certainty that that is not a gift. On the opposite side if you are a business woman giving a gift to a politician than you know than it is not a gift either. It is a well known practice to smoothen the bumpy road, and bypassing them in the queue.

But there is another one different. Last week I picked my daughter from school and I asked her what she learned that day? and she said "Islamic Art". And she pulled a board from her bag with the word Allah on it, and she said "I made this for you". If I were to give that piece to anyone no one would take it, it is a worthless piece for anyone. I hug her and I hug the board, and it is on the wall now. See the difference?

I am sorry to disagree with the Sheikh, my experience and my observation tell me it is a bribe.

Was salaamu alaikum.
]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:51:14 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171352#171352 a question : W&#039;salam Nausheen, I think... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171337#171337 Author: honeto
Subject: 24420
Posted: 10 December 2012 at 1:15pm

W'salam Nausheen,
I think I said "petty much like Nothing", not exactly .
I do give and take gifts, so yes that is a difference. But like Nothing, I gave my share of my parent's property to my eldest brother, and I did not have any property of my own then.
Hasan [IMG]smileys/smiley1.gif" align="middle" />

Edited by honeto - 10 December 2012 at 2:05pm]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:15:41 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171337#171337 a question : Assalamualaikum Hassan, In his... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171316#171316 Author: Nausheen
Subject: 24420
Posted: 09 December 2012 at 6:57pm

Assalamualaikum Hassan,

In his post Nothing said he does not take gifts from others.
Then, in your post you are saying you are very much like him.

So my question to both of you is, why do you guys do not take gifts?

]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:57:27 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171316#171316 a question : Greetings Nausheen,You always... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171271#171271 Author: Caringheart
Subject: 24420
Posted: 07 December 2012 at 5:06pm

Greetings Nausheen,
You always make me smile...
your comment on blood transfusion... lol
I guess I just wanted to see what answers... whatever would pop into anyone's mind in response to the question.
]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:06:13 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171271#171271 a question : W&#039;salam Nausheen, I am not... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171270#171270 Author: honeto
Subject: 24420
Posted: 07 December 2012 at 5:05pm

W'salam Nausheen,
I am not sure if I understand your question, please be clear.
Jazakallah,
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 07 December 2012 at 5:07pm]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:05:02 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171270#171270 a question : Bismillah, Assalamualaikum Hasan... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171239#171239 Author: Nausheen
Subject: 24420
Posted: 06 December 2012 at 7:50pm

Bismillah,
Assalamualaikum Hasan and Nothing,

I found it a bit odd in your posts, if you don't mind, why do you refuse gifts?

My Shaykh insists one to take gifts and thank people much for the same. He rests this practice on the fact that 'one who does not thank people has not thanked Allah'

After having understood this concept, its never a burden on the heart while accepting gifts, rather I make it a point to make a very big deal of any gift received from anyone - thanking that person much.


]]> Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:50:21 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171239#171239 a question : Originally posted by nothingI... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171229#171229 Author: honeto
Subject: 24420
Posted: 06 December 2012 at 2:22pm

Originally posted by nothing

I don't know your way of life, but I will shed bit of mine here and therefore I would never know our differences.1. I made a pledge to my neighbors that their property, their tranquility and their beings are safe from me. I never step into other people property without their permission unless it is emergency situation, which hasn't happened yet.2. I don't take gifts, material assistance from others or accept inheritance. Twice I declined the inheritance share in cash and the sums were divided among my siblings. I live only to give to those in need, not taking. This step is copied from the Prophet Muhammad life where he did not take zakat money, but accept gifts. I just took step further than him by includes the inheritance. 3. I can't distinguished between masters and slaves, the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak. To me they all look the same. This is not new though I have it since I was a kid. But for some reason I am very respectful to the elders regardless who they are, this too seem rooted in my gene.4. I hate bullies right to the core, they are the terrorist in it's truest form. This too look like in the gene.

I can say I am a lot like you, and hope to excel, Inshahallah.

Jazakallah,
Hasan ]]> Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:22:52 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171229#171229 a question : Originally posted by CaringheartDo... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171228#171228 Author: honeto
Subject: 24420
Posted: 06 December 2012 at 2:19pm

Originally posted by Caringheart

Do you think you are so different from me?If so, how?



Caringheart,
Allah ho Alim, only Allah knows. I know me to some degree, I do not know you. You know yourself to some degree, you do not know me. Thus the answer may not be true, only thinking, a guess!
Hasan]]> Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:19:29 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171228#171228 a question : Greetings CaringHeart, Im not... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171207#171207 Author: Nausheen
Subject: 24420
Posted: 05 December 2012 at 8:43pm

Greetings CaringHeart,

Im not sure in what sense you are asking.
If you were to take blood transfussion, you cannot take it from any donor unless your blood group is AB.

If you need an organ transplant you will need a lot more matches to consider than just the blood group.

Spiritually every human has a special different rank with Allah, and He only knows the secrets of that.

If you talk about culture, then you are american and I am Indian and I am well aware of the cultural differences.

If you talk about mental ability, the IQ scores can tell about that

so on and so forth...

what exactly is that you wanna compare.
]]> Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:43:19 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171207#171207 a question : I don&#039;t know your way of... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171163#171163 Author: nothing
Subject: 24420
Posted: 04 December 2012 at 5:18pm

I don't know your way of life, but I will shed bit of mine here and therefore I would never know our differences.

1.
I made a pledge to my neighbors that their property, their tranquility and their beings are safe from me. I never step into other people property without their permission unless it is emergency situation, which hasn't happened yet.

2.
I don't take gifts, material assistance from others or accept inheritance. Twice I declined the inheritance share in cash and the sums were divided among my siblings. I live only to give to those in need, not taking. This step is copied from the Prophet Muhammad life where he did not take zakat money, but accept gifts. I just took step further than him by includes the inheritance.

3.
I can't distinguished between masters and slaves, the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak. To me they all look the same. This is not new though I have it since I was a kid. But for some reason I am very respectful to the elders regardless who they are, this too seem rooted in my gene.

4.
I hate bullies right to the core, they are the terrorist in it's truest form. This too look like in the gene.

]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:18:02 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171163#171163 a question : You can be the judge for yourself:49:13... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171139#171139 Author: truthnowcome
Subject: 24420
Posted: 04 December 2012 at 8:52am

You can be the judge for yourself:

49:13 (Y. Ali) O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
tnc
]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 08:52:09 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171139#171139 a question : Oh, boy! When trolls are intentionally... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171134#171134 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 24420
Posted: 04 December 2012 at 6:33am

Oh, boy!  When trolls are intentionally vague; know that something annoying will follow.]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 06:33:33 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171134#171134 a question : No, I don&#039;t. Genetically... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171122#171122 Author: Matt Browne
Subject: 24420
Posted: 04 December 2012 at 5:12am

No, I don't. Genetically speaking, all 7 billion humans on Earth are almost identical. Take any group of 55 chimps and you will find more genetic diversity in such a group (counting DNA base pairs that differ).

Even men and women are almost the same, and 45 out of 46 chromosomes are the same. And even the X and Y chromosomes are not completely different.

We all are one big human family.

Muslims and Christians are not that different. We all believe in a higher power. We all believe that our lives have meaning and purpose. We share many prophets. In history our civilizations inspired each other. Today we use the same math formulas, the same web browsers, the same search engines and we all fill up our cars' tanks with the same gasoline. We all smile. We all are sad sometimes. We all love our children and try to protect them. We all dream. We all don't want to be alone. We all like to have friends. We all like to be respected as human beings.

The things that make us different pale in comparison to what we all have in common.


Edited by Matt Browne - 04 December 2012 at 5:14am]]> Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:12:00 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171122#171122 a question : Do you think you are so different... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171099#171099 Author: Caringheart
Subject: 24420
Posted: 03 December 2012 at 9:15pm

Do you think you are so different from me?
If so, how?]]> Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:15:08 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24420&PID=171099#171099