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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :  Originally posted by EmpiricistWhy...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71203">nospam001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 February 2013 at 2:56pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Empiricist</strong></em><br /><br />Why don't you ask God?</div>I would, if only he'd just pick up the phone. <img src="http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Clown" />]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? : Why don&amp;#039;t you ask God? Edited...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69517">Empiricist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 February 2013 at 7:12pm<br /><br />Why don't you ask God? <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Empiricist - 09 February 2013 at 7:12pm</span>]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :  Originally posted by Caringheart Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71203">nospam001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 January 2013 at 2:17pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Caringheart</strong></em><br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by nospam001</strong></em><br /><br />A symmetry so fundamental that even God can't find a way around it, try as He might? So for every bit of 'good' we strive for there must be an equal and opposite amount of 'bad' that pops up somewhere else (past or future).<br /><p>This theory carries lots of other implications if you stop & think about it.</div>Yes, I know. <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Ermm" /></div> Wasn't it God who invented this symmetry? Why can't He find a way around it? Or doesn't He want to? ]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :   Originally posted by nospam001A...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69566">Caringheart</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 January 2013 at 12:02pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by nospam001</strong></em><br /><br />A symmetry so fundamental that even God can't find a way around it, try as He might? So for every&nbsp;bit of 'good' we strive for there must be an equal and opposite amount of 'bad' that pops up somewhere else (past or future).<p>This theory carries lots of other implications if you stop &amp; think about it.</div> <br></p><p>Yes, I know. <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Ermm" /><br></p><p><br></p>]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :  Originally posted by Caringheartthe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71203">nospam001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 January 2013 at 5:41pm<br /><br /><P><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Caringheart</strong></em><br /><br />the force of good, the force of evil<BR>it's just the structure of the world<BR>don't ask me why<BR></div>A symmetry so fundamental that even God can't find a way around it, try as He might? So for every&nbsp;bit of 'good' we strive for there must be an equal and opposite amount of 'bad' that pops up somewhere else (past or future).</P><P>This theory carries lots of other implications if you stop &amp; think about it.</P>]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :    Originally posted by nospam001 Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69566">Caringheart</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 January 2013 at 2:53pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by nospam001</strong></em><br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Empiricist</strong></em><br /><br />God allows evil to exist, without which one could not recognize good.</div>Is that the only reason? If so then surely there&nbsp;are other, less harmful ways He could arrange things to achieve the same result. There are real killings reported in the news and fictional ones on TV and in books, but the fictional ones often elicit a more powerful response from audiences. Why not use that method instead?</div><br><br><img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley33.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Ying%20Yang" />&nbsp; Yin and yang<br>positive and negative forces<br>the force of good, the force of evil<br>it's just the structure of the world<br>don't ask me why <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Ermm" /><br>What would happen if a magnet had only a positive force?<br>Can that even happen?<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Caringheart - 23 January 2013 at 2:54pm</span>]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :  Originally posted by EmpiricistGod...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71203">nospam001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 January 2013 at 1:58pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Empiricist</strong></em><br /><br />God allows evil to exist, without which one could not recognize good.</div>Is that the only reason? If so then surely there&nbsp;are other, less harmful ways He could arrange things to achieve the same result. There are real killings reported in the news and fictional ones on TV and in books, but the fictional ones often elicit a more powerful response from audiences. Why not use that method instead? ]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? : I have observed the exact same...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69517">Empiricist</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 January 2013 at 2:02pm<br /><br /><P>I have observed the exact same behavior from Muslims.&nbsp; Can you say anything constructive?&nbsp; </P><DIV>God allows evil to exist,&nbsp;without which one could not recognize good.&nbsp; Evil tries to appear good often times truth will emerge.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The root and source of all evil is ...... ignorance.&nbsp;&nbsp;(Plato... something like that).</DIV><DIV>I cannot deny this statement.&nbsp; </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>How is it that Jews and Christians are considered the worst filth imaginable according to Allah, yet Allah is forgiving and loving?&nbsp; But Jesus was a prophet from God according to Muslims.&nbsp; So therefore God created a filthy unclean person?&nbsp; This does not make any sense to me.&nbsp; I can only conclude that the Quran is not from God but written by men with political motives, with evil motives from evil influences.&nbsp;&nbsp; Jesus&nbsp;was not evil&nbsp;and his words per the bible do not reflect evil.&nbsp; But the Quran is full of questionable sayings of Muhammed.&nbsp; Yet Muslims are taught that it is OK to kill "nonbelievers" (of what?)&nbsp; and that anyone questioning the Quran can be killed, even if it is your brother!&nbsp; Is that love???</DIV>]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :   Originally posted by Salaam_ErinWe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70404">Abu Loren</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 November 2012 at 10:35am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Salaam_Erin</strong></em><br /><br />We don't mean moral evil here but circumstantial evil.&nbsp; This is circumstantial evil in the sense of something bad happen to someone, in this case as a result of Divine judgement on them as punishment for their sin.&nbsp; God is saying that He alone has control over everything.&nbsp; The operative words in Hebrew are tov and ra.&nbsp; Another way of translating the passage is, "I form teh light and create darkness, I bring properity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things."</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Laughing out very loudly because Christians will always have another 'version' to back up their arguement. Christians will always be in denial.</div>]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? :  Originally posted by Salaam_ErinWe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67758">Mahdi The Seeke</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 November 2012 at 9:54am<br /><br /> <div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Salaam_Erin</strong></em><br /><br />We don't mean moral evil here but circumstantial evil.  This is circumstantial evil in the sense of something bad happen to someone, in this case as a result of Divine judgement on them as punishment for their sin.  God is saying that He alone has control over everything.  The operative words in Hebrew are tov and ra.  Another way of translating the passage is, "I form teh light and create darkness, I bring properity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things."<br /><br /></div> <br />Fair enough]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? : We don&amp;#039;t mean moral evil...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71439">Salaam_Erin</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 November 2012 at 6:24am<br /><br />We don't mean moral evil here but circumstantial evil.&nbsp; This is circumstantial evil in the sense of something bad happen to someone, in this case as a result of Divine judgement on them as punishment for their sin.&nbsp; God is saying that He alone has control over everything.&nbsp; The operative words in Hebrew are tov and ra.&nbsp; Another way of translating the passage is, "I form teh light and create darkness, I bring properity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things."]]>
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   <title>CHRISTIANS:ACCORDING TO BIBLE,WHO CREATES EVIL? : Isaiah 45:7  King James Version...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67758">Mahdi The Seeke</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24233<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 November 2012 at 4:51am<br /><br /><font color=red>Isaiah 45:7  King James Version (KJV)  7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and <u><strong>create evil</strong></u>: <u>I the Lord do all these things</u>.</font>]]>
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