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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; : Please tell me what you think...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2012 at 4:40am<br /><br />Please tell me what you think of my first entry on my blog http://seekknowledgeeveninchina.wordpress.com/]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; : Cool! Thanks This is awesome  ...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2012 at 9:02am<br /><br />Cool! Thanks&nbsp;<img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /> This is awesome<img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Thumbs%20Up" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=51697">abuayisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2012 at 8:52am<br /><br /><a href="https://www.coursera.org/" target="_blank">https://www.coursera.org/</a>]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; :   Originally posted by abosaitWe...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 October 2012 at 3:44am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by abosait</strong></em><br /><br />&nbsp;<p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">We pray that Allah Subhanahuwa ta’alaa helps us regain our golden age through primarily the educationsystem and knowledge. Allahumma Ameen.</span></font></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p><p></p><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><!--&#091;if gte mso 10&#093;><> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;	mso-style-noshow:yes;	mso-style-parent:"";	mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;	mso-para-margin:0in;	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;	font-size:10.0pt;	font-family:"Times New Roman";	mso-ansi-language:#0400;	mso-fareast-language:#0400;	mso-bidi-language:#0400;}<!&#091;endif&#093;--><br></div><br><br>I totally agree with you.&nbsp; The education system is key, but it is in dire need of reform.&nbsp; I don't think that an overhaul is entirely necessary, but a holistic approach to address the ever changing realities of this world is my suggestion.&nbsp; A 1 hour once a week class is enough to teach things or devote time to sales training, planting trees, structured learning experiences, goal setting, etc<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=51697">abuayisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 October 2012 at 7:28pm<br /><br /><img src="http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; : Bravo. It&amp;#039;s great to see...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71203">nospam001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 October 2012 at 1:06am<br /><br /><P>Bravo. It's great to see some opposing viewpoints being expressed here, without hostility.&nbsp; Reason for hope, after all. <img src="http://www.islamicity.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="T&#111;ngue" /></P>]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; :   Originally posted by abuayisha  Well...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2012 at 4:40am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by abuayisha</strong></em><br /><br />Well certainly wisdom is found in many quotes and sayings, however, as you may be aware, there is a stern warning when attributing to the Messenger of Allah a saying or quote he didn't say.&nbsp; It is not to be taken lightly, as we base our success in this life and the next upon following sound and authentic narrations.</div><br><br>"Seek knowledge even in China" is not sound?&nbsp; There are many people in Pakistan, Iraq, etc who follow exact narrations...are those countries "successful"?<br><br>I put reality before narrations.&nbsp; Realities of bloodshed and poverty.&nbsp; So what I'm saying is not for people who are not sick of these issues ...it's for people who want to do something about them.<br><br>Even Western historians do not discount the achievements made during the Golden Age of Islam.&nbsp; That actually happened.&nbsp; I want that instead of what's happening now.&nbsp; For the people who want that, please continue to seek knowledge and think of developing your country.&nbsp; I myself come from a country that, although is growing steadily, the salary can be low such that middle class people may go to the Middle East just to become maids or nannies.&nbsp; <br><br>I am an undergrad who was studying Sociology as a background to writing...I was unaware of the job market myself but I was successful working in a call center which pays well...Now I teach English online to Japanese students.&nbsp; It pays well enough.&nbsp; I never thought I would ever be able to do that but if there is a will, there really is a way.&nbsp; It is so much easier now to gain knowledge through the net so if we have access, we should learn and read about everything - business, etc.&nbsp; That is all I am saying.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; :   Originally posted by abuayisha  Certainly...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2012 at 4:33am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by abuayisha</strong></em><br /><br />Certainly it is laudable to seek knowledge, however "seek knowledge even in China" is a fabricated hadith, even though very popular.</div><br><br>Laudable?...How about "obligation"?&nbsp; "The seeking of knowledge is the duty of every Muslim, man or woman"...or is that fabricated as well?&nbsp; Even if it was, does that mean it shouldn't be done for economic development?&nbsp; <br><br>If it is so important to point out that these hadith are fabricated, shouldn't it also be pointed out that this spirit of the Golden Age of Islam is what the Islamic world can be, and the whole world in general?&nbsp; I know it's difficult if the government isn't really helping out, but for those who can, and don't want anymore children being killed in a civil war or going hungry, the pursuit of knowledge in order to develop one's country is a must.<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=60805">nothing</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 October 2012 at 3:00pm<br /><br />"And Allah presents an example of two men, <b>one of them is dumb and unable to do a thing</b>, while <b>he is a burden to his guardian</b>. <b>Wherever he directs him, he brings no good</b>. Is he equal to one who commands justice, while he is on a straight path?" (16:76)<br><br>We have the Qur'an, read it and try to understand it, than start work it out from there. If we don't we end up as a burden like above.<br>We must have ideas, and imagination. We must not be told what to do.<br>We forgot that Allah creations came into existence as we know it by <b>Wills it</b>, yet we are so dormant. The wills must be there for things to happen:<br><br><span id="verse_3787__6_c&#111;ntent">"His  command  is  only  when  He  intends  a  thing  that  He  says  to  it,  "<b>Be</b>,"  and  it  is." (36:82)<br><br></span><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by nothing - 11 October 2012 at 3:01pm</span>]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; :   Originally posted by abuayisha  Well...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=60791">abosait</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 October 2012 at 9:49am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by abuayisha</strong></em><br /><br />Well certainly wisdom is found in many quotes and sayings, however, as you may be aware, there is a stern warning when attributing to the Messenger of Allah a saying or quote he didn't say.&nbsp; It is not to be taken lightly, as we base our success in this life and the next upon following sound and authentic narrations.</div><font color="#0000CC">Sure. Jazakallah for that reminder.<br></font><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:Word>  <w:View>Normal</w:View>  <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>  <w:Punctuati&#111;nKerning/>  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/>  <w:SaveIfInvalid>false</w:SaveIfInvalid>  <w:IgnoreMixedC&#111;ntent>false</w:IgnoreMixedC&#111;ntent>  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>  <w:Compatibility>   <w:BreakWrappedTables/>   <w:SnapToGridInCell/>   <w:WrapTextWithPunct/>   <w:UseAsianBreakRules/>   <w:D&#111;ntGrowAutofit/>  </w:Compatibility>  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:Word></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">Allah made the first manAdam (a.s.) and made him observe and learn through his senses and intellect.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">Then He taught him the names of things.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">&nbsp;Al-Baqara&#091;2:37</span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Verdana;">&#093;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><font color="#0000CC"><span ="ph&#111;netics"><span dir="RTL" style="font-size: 18pt;" lang="AR-SA">&#1601;&#1614;&#1578;&#1614;&#1604;&#1614;&#1602;&#1617;&#1614;&#1609; &#1570;&#1583;&#1614;&#1605;&#1615; &#1605;&#1616;&#1606;&#1585;&#1617;&#1614;&#1576;&#1617;&#1616;&#1607;&#1616; &#1603;&#1614;&#1604;&#1616;&#1605;&#1614;&#1575;&#1578;&#1613; &#1601;&#1614;&#1578;&#1614;&#1575;&#1576;&#1614; &#1593;&#1614;&#1604;&#1614;&#1610;&#1618;&#1607;&#1616; &#1573;&#1616;&#1606;&#1617;&#1614;&#1607;&#1615; &#1607;&#1615;&#1608;&#1614; &#1575;&#1604;&#1578;&#1617;&#1614;&#1608;&#1617;&#1614;&#1575;&#1576;&#1615; &#1575;&#1604;&#1585;&#1617;&#1614;&#1581;&#1616;&#1610;&#1605;&#1615;</span></span><span dir="LTR"></span><span ="ph&#111;netics"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: &quot;Traditi&#111;nal Arabic&quot;;" lang="AR-SA"><span dir="LTR"></span> </span></span><span ="ph&#111;netics"><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-family: &quot;Traditi&#111;nal Arabic&quot;;"></span></span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family: Verdana;">2:37 Thenlearnt Adam from his Lord words of inspiration, and his Lord Turned towardshim; for He is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful. </span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">What man has learnt throughhis external senses<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; </span>and intellect iscalled the <b>Aquired Knowledge</b>. Man continued to increase in aquiredknowledge through observation, experimentation, drawing conclusions and byimitating other creatures around him.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">Allah Subhanahu wa ta’alaathen sent further guidance on all the branches of aquired knowledge and alsoguidance and knowledge about some unseen realities like knowledge aboutHimself, about the angels, about the Jinns and shayateen, about heaven and helland about the day of judgement.. This guidance also known as wahyi was sentdown to a large number of Prophets and messengers. </span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">Knowledge that came down tomankind through this second stream is what is called the <b>Revealed Knowledge</b>. <br></span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:Word>  <w:View>Normal</w:View>  <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>  <w:Punctuati&#111;nKerning/>  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/>  <w:SaveIfInvalid>false</w:SaveIfInvalid>  <w:IgnoreMixedC&#111;ntent>false</w:IgnoreMixedC&#111;ntent>  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>  <w:Compatibility>   <w:BreakWrappedTables/>   <w:SnapToGridInCell/>   <w:WrapTextWithPunct/>   <w:UseAsianBreakRules/>   <w:D&#111;ntGrowAutofit/>  </w:Compatibility>  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:Word></><!&#091;endif&#093;--></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><!--&#091;if gte mso 10&#093;><> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;	mso-style-noshow:yes;	mso-style-parent:"";	mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;	mso-para-margin:0in;	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;	font-size:10.0pt;	font-family:"Times New Roman";	mso-ansi-language:#0400;	mso-fareast-language:#0400;	mso-bidi-language:#0400;}<!&#091;endif&#093;--><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">The last of the revealedknowledge that put a stop to this second stream of knowledge was given toProphet Muhammed Sallallahu ‘alahi wasallam. </span></font></p><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:Word>  <w:View>Normal</w:View>  <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom>  <w:Punctuati&#111;nKerning/>  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/>  <w:SaveIfInvalid>false</w:SaveIfInvalid>  <w:IgnoreMixedC&#111;ntent>false</w:IgnoreMixedC&#111;ntent>  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>  <w:Compatibility>   <w:BreakWrappedTables/>   <w:SnapToGridInCell/>   <w:WrapTextWithPunct/>   <w:UseAsianBreakRules/>   <w:D&#111;ntGrowAutofit/>  </w:Compatibility>  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:Word></><!&#091;endif&#093;--></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><!--&#091;if gte mso 10&#093;><> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;	mso-style-noshow:yes;	mso-style-parent:"";	mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;	mso-para-margin:0in;	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;	font-size:10.0pt;	font-family:"Times New Roman";	mso-ansi-language:#0400;	mso-fareast-language:#0400;	mso-bidi-language:#0400;}<!&#091;endif&#093;--><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">The revealed Knowledge – theQur’an and the Sunnah – also - talks not only about God and how to worship Himbut it also contains information about the physical world we live in.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">It was the Qur’an that waswas responsible for much of the great scientific achievements. The revealedknowledge was responsible for enticing and motivating the Muslim scholars totake on the great challenge of exploring the physical world.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">The early Muslimsaccomplished in Mathematics, Astronomy, Geography, Natural Sciences, Alchemy, Opticsand other fields that lead the world for centuries.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">Indeed Muslim Scientificachievement influenced the advance of science in the western world – from theirrenaissance to the modern era. Unfortunately Muslims have gone into deepslumber.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">The aquired knowledge thatwe have discovered, invented and enlightened the world wih, they have kept it.They have built upon it while the Muslims are in deep slumber.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><font color="#0000CC"><span style="font-family:Arial">We pray that Allah Subhanahuwa ta’alaa helps us regain our golden age through primarily the educationsystem and knowledge. Allahumma Ameen.</span></font></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:Arial">&nbsp;</span></p></p><!--&#091;if gte mso 9&#093;><> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles></><!&#091;endif&#093;--><!--&#091;if gte mso 10&#093;><> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable	{mso-style-name:"Table Normal";	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;	mso-style-noshow:yes;	mso-style-parent:"";	mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;	mso-para-margin:0in;	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;	font-size:10.0pt;	font-family:"Times New Roman";	mso-ansi-language:#0400;	mso-fareast-language:#0400;	mso-bidi-language:#0400;}<!&#091;endif&#093;--><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=51697">abuayisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2012 at 6:35am<br /><br />Well certainly wisdom is found in many quotes and sayings, however, as you may be aware, there is a stern warning when attributing to the Messenger of Allah a saying or quote he didn't say.&nbsp; It is not to be taken lightly, as we base our success in this life and the next upon following sound and authentic narrations. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=63018">Matt Browne</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2012 at 3:53am<br /><br />I can recommend the book "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared Diamond. Trade and exchange of ideas between societies are indeed key drivers for success.<br><br><br>]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; : And yet the Abbasids did seek...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2012 at 6:52am<br /><br />And yet the Abbasids did seek knowledge from cultures outside their own, non-Islamic even, and their civilization flourished until the Mongols sacked Baghdad.&nbsp; That is all the evidence I need to follow this saying.&nbsp; If we look at all the turmoil happening in the Muslim world with exception to some countries, it is obvious that not enough knowledge has been sought. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" /> &nbsp;]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; :   Certainly it is laudable to...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=51697">abuayisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2012 at 6:23am<br /><br />Certainly it is laudable to seek knowledge, however "seek knowledge even in China" is a fabricated hadith, even though very popular.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 06:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; : My country also faced a similar...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71269">makasa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2012 at 12:36am<br /><br />My country also faced a similar situation <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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   <title>&quot;Seek knowledge even in China&quot; : As a big fan of this hadith, I...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70984">JeddahBoy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 October 2012 at 1:42pm<br /><br />As a big fan of this hadith, I am wondering what else it will take for developing Islamic countries' governments to finance development.&nbsp; More bloodshed, more uprisings, more civil war, more hunger.&nbsp; What else will it take for the majority of citizens to educate themselves about the modern world of engineering, electronics, IT, science, business, economics, etc.?<br>Let's not wonder why the violence never ends.&nbsp; <br><br>Malaysia has already made it.&nbsp; I don't see any turmoil there.&nbsp; Is it just luck that their government is like that?&nbsp; I believe if we ourselves don't do what we can to help the development of our country, I doubt those in power will either.&nbsp; <br><br>Yes, it's their job...but we have to do our part in seeking knowledge for the economic development of our country.&nbsp; We have the internet, secondhand books, the newspaper...knowledge is knowledge. &nbsp;&nbsp; <br>]]>
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