Caringheart,there is a big difference between “WITH him” and “HE is”

If thespirit of God is with him and he is the Spirit of God then what youare implying is that Jesus is with Jesus.

So this verse “Isaw the Spirit descending from heaven... and abode upon him.”(John 1:32) Will imply that Jesus abode uponJesus.

Whichone is really Jesus (S)?

thc

Peace untoyou!

So what they received there? <>

It says in John.20:21-22“...As my father hath sent me, evenso I “send” you (the disciple) andwhen he had said this, he breathe on them, and said unto them, “received ye theHoly Ghost.” (John.20:21-22).

They werethen sent to go and remit sins:

“Whosesoever sins ye (The disciples) remit, they are remited unto them; and whose soever sinsye retain, they are retained.” John 20:23

  Didthey remit sins empty handed?

tnc

PeaceCaringheart,
 I always misspell words, the word there I meant was "breathe"not breads. However, Let me go over it again.

In thatpost you said: “Jesus (S) is the Spirit thatdwelleth with his Apostle…”

That is thereason I ask: “when Jesus (S) breathed on to the disciples if he breathedhimself unto them”

Jesus (S) said (and thisis before he left): “...as my father hathsent me, even so i send you (the disciple) and when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, receivedye the holy ghost.” (john.20:21-22)

Did Jesus (S) bread himself into thedisciples there?

In the postbelow you change the tone, you said: “…Jesus had the Spirit of God...”

I know whatis the Spirit of God, but you have to make up your mind If Jesus (S) is theSpirit that dwelleth with the disciples or if was the Spirit of God.

I amwaiting, Peace!

TNC

Jesus (S) said (and this is before he left): “...as my father hath sent me, even so i send you (the disciple) and when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, received ye the holy ghost.” (john.20:21-22)

Did Jesus (S) bread himself into the disciples here?

TNC

No, I thinkyou are not coming straight. You said: “Jesusis the Holy Spirit that dwell with the disciples”. He then breathes intothe disciples the Holy Spirit. I want to know if Jesus (S) breads himself intothe disciples.

TNC

Peace myfriend.

I will be brief too!

Jesus(S) said (and this is before he left): “...asmy father hath sent me, even so i send you (the disciple) and when he had saidthis, he breathed on them, and said untothem, received ye the holy ghost.” (john.20:21-22)

Did Jesus(S) bread himself into the disciples here?

TNC

Peace!

Caringheart,I will give you a chance to defend your position, I will deal with the Comforterfirst.

Now, letslook at those verses Jesus (S) spoke of the Comforter.

Jesus Said: “…I will pray to the father, and he shall give you "another"comforter that he may abide with you for ever. even the spirit of truth:whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him:but ye know him; for “he dwelleth with you and shall be in you.” (John14:16-17)

In that verse Jesus (S) assuringhis disciples he is going to pray and ask his Father (His God: “…my Father, and your Father;and my God, and your God.” (John 20:16-17 AKJV)) to send“another” Comforter which is with the Father in Heaven (“Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is expedientfor you that ‘I go’ for if ‘I go not away’, the comforter will not come untoyou, but if ‘i depart’, i will send him unto you.” (John 16:7)

It is theFather that has to give them the other Comforter and not Jesus (S) (and“he” shall give you "another" comforter) and thisComforter has to come from Heaven.

The versecontinue: “even the spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive, because itseeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for “he dwelleth with youand shall be in you.” (John14:16-17). If thisComforter is in Heaven how suddenly he dwelleth with them?

TNC

“Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth: I have put my Spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentile.” 3-A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax he shall he not quench: he shall bring forth Judgment unto truth. 4- He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for His LAW.” Isaiah 42:1-4

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.  (Matthew 3:17, Mark 1:11, 2 Peter 1:17, Psalm 2)

“And I saw another angel fly in the midst of haven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. Saying with aloud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.” Rev.14:6-7

If you had downloaded the message from this link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/79252919/2My%20book.docx

You wouldhave not responded with that your opinion. However let me introduce you to thetruth.

Remember Jesus (s) message was to inform his followers of the prophetwho will come after him with all the truth, this is what he [Jesus (S)]said:

“I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannotbear them now. Howbeit when he, theSpirit of Truth, is come, he willguide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but what hehears.” (John.16:12-13)   

 “All the truth”will come with the arrival of the Comforter. Here in the Book of Revelationchapter 10 mentioned the coming of another Book which John did not wrote and. It is mentioned:

“And I saw anothermighty angel come down from heaven. 2-Andhe had in his hand a little book open:and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth. 3-And cried with a loud voice, as whena lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voice. 4-Andwhen the seven thunders had utteredtheir voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from haven sayingunto, seal up those things which theseven thunder utters, and write themnot.” Rev.10:1-4

·      Point (1) Another Mighty Angel: Jesus (S) is not another mighty angel;it is Gabriel (s) the messenger of Allah who brought the message to and fromAllah.

·      Point (2) He had in his hand a little bookopen: V.2 And he had in hishand a little book open:

·      Point (3) Seventh thunders uttered theirvoice (something was revealing): V.3...And cried with a loud voice, aswhen a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered theirvoice.

·      Point 4: John was about to write what was revealing: V.4-Andwhen the seven thunders had utteredtheir voices, I was about to write:

·      Point 5: He wastold to seal up the message and write them not: V.4…and I heard a voice from haven saying unto, seal up thosethings which the seven thunders utters, and write them not. (Rev.10:4)  

 The angel brought the little bookand John was order “not to write downthe message in that book,” because the time was not right. “So it is not the bible,” because thebible is a “written book” and it(the bible) is telling us about “anotherbook.” Which book is that? 

Further as you read in Verse 7 itsays:

“But inthe days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound: the mysteryof God should finish as he declared to his servants the prophets.(Rev.10:7)

 In the days when this little book shall reveal all the mystery(all the truth) of God will finish (revealed). The book was never writtenaccording to the voice from Heaven: “seal up those things…and write them not.”

Now, “Begin to sound” mean “revealing” In the days when this little bookshall reveal “all the mystery” (Thatis “all the truth”) of God will finish (revealed, no more mystery) as hedeclared to his servants the prophets.

 And this is what Jesus (S) said:

“Ihave yet many things to say unto you,but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he,the Spirit of Truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speakof himself; but what he hears.” (John.16:12-13)   

 Therefore, the Spirit ofTruth which is the Comforter would have to bring this little book whichcontains all the truth. 

 And in 10:4 it says: “John was about to write…” So whenthis Book will reveal “some one”will have to be there to “write themessage down.” Allah has revealed to Muhammad (S):

“…And Wehave sent down to thee (O Muhammad) the book (the Qur’an) explaining all things, a guide, a mercy,and Glad Tiding to Muslims.” (Q.16:89)

“ThisQur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary itis a confirmation of (revelations)that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book -wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.” (Qur.10:37)

This dayhave I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and havechosen for you Islam as your religion. (Q.5:3)

Donot mistake this Book for the one that mentioned in Rev.5:1 “… A Bookwritten within and on the back side, sealed with seven seals.”

ThatBook is already written and every time a seal open a certain event takes place.Example:

·        …when the lamb opened one of the seal…beholda white horse: he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. (Rev.6:1-2)

  That isthe advent of Muhammad (S) it is also in Habakkuk 3:3-16.

“…And the Holy One from MountParan. Se-lah. His Glory covered the heaven, and the earth was full of hispraise…When he cometh up unto the people, hewill invade them with his troops.” (Habk.3:3-16)

Who is the Holy One from Mt. Param? Thedescendant of Ishmael’s:

“And he [Ishmael (S)] dwelt in the wilderness of Paran” Genesis 21:21

The advent of the crusaders:

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·       And when he had open the forth seal…a pale horse: and hisname that sat on him was Death, and Hellfollowed with him, And power wasgiven unto him over the forth part of the earth (Newworld: the west), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with thebeasts of the earth. Rev. 6:7-8

On the other hand, the book that mentioned in Rev.10:2-4, Johnwas about to write and he heard a voice from heaven saying, “Seal up thosething…and write them not.” So when this Book willreveal some one will have to be there to write it down.

10-And I (John) took the little book out of the angel’shand, and eat it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as Ihad eaten it, my belly was bitter. (Rev.10:10)

 We know that John did not eat the book, he read the book and thetruth was sweet but practicing the law was bitter.

11-And hesaid unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many people, andnations, and tongues, and kings. (Rev.10:11)

  Why prophesy again? Because hehad already went, so he has to go back again to inform them about the coming ofthe universal book that he did not wrote.

  Allah (S) mentioned:

“We havenot sent thee but as a (universal messenger) to all mankind…but most of mankindknew not”. (Q.34: 28)                                        

  REVELATION14:COMING OF THE UNIVERSAL BOOK

It is mentioned in the bible Rev.14: 6-7:

“And I saw another angel fly in the midst ofhaven, having the everlasting gospelto preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. Saying withaloud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.” Rev.14:6-7

Note: The word “gospel” is Good News”; in other words the angel wasbringing the “everlasting Good News”. The everlasting Good News was yet tocome; Jesus (S) gospel (Good News) could not be for all time. Jesus (S) alreadyon earth with his gospel (Good News), he could not be the “another angel” with everlastingGood News. The everlasting Good News is the little book thatmentioned in Revelation 10:1-11 anotherangel with a little book which John did not wrote but is yet to come; andthe coming of it is clearly stated in Revelation 14:7

“…another angel fly in the midstof haven, having the everlastingGood News…” Rev. 14:7

That means, the everlasting Good News have to come from Heaven having anangel bringing it.

It says in verse 7:

“FearGod and Give Glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come!”

Not the Day of Judgment, because the angel was bringing what? The “everlasting Good News to preach; it was ajudgment to preach” and that was the Criterion: the standard way ofjudgment between right and wrong. In other words, coming of the everlastingGood News then Judgment will come.

This is what mentioned in the Qur’an:

“Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion(of judgment between right and wrong) to His Servant, that it may be anadmonition to all creatures.” (Q.25:1)

“Thus have We revealedit (the Qur’an) to be a judgmentof authority in Arabic” (Q.13: 37)

Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear(Signs) for guidance and Judgment(Between right and wrong). (Qur’an 2:185)

“ThisQur'an is not such as can be produced by other than Allah. on the contrary itis a confirmation of (revelations)that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book -wherein there is no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.” (Qur.10:37)

Say, theHoly Spirit (Angel Gabriel) has brought the revelation from thy Lord in truth,in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a guide, and Glad Tidings toMuslims. (Q.16:102)

A book,whereof the verses are explained indetail-A Qur’an in Arabic, for people who understand-Giving Good News and admonition: yet most of them turn away,and so they hear not. (Q.41:3-4)

Withoutdoubt it is (announced) in the reveled books (Torah, Gospel) of former people.(Q.26:196)

And thisis a book which We have sent down, bringing blessing and conforming (therevelation) which came before it. (Q.6:92)

…it isno less than a Message for all creatures(mankind and jinn). (Q.12:104)

…so fear Allah and obey me. (Q.3:50)

ye whobelieve! Fear Allah as He should fear,and die not except in a state of Islam. (Q.3:102)

And glorify Him morning and evening.(Q.33:42)

Thus have We revealed it (theQur’an) to be a judgment of authority in Arabic (Q.13: 37)

 WhatRevelation 14-7 says? It says:

“FearGod and Give Glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come!”

Not the Day of Judgment, the Criterion: the standard way of judgmentbetween right and wrong.

And Jesus (S) said: 

“Andwhen he (theComforter) is come he will reprove theworld of sin, and righteous, and judgment.” (John.16:8) 

  Adding further, when Judgmentcomes the Comforter will used it to reprove the world (Gentiles) and theComforter has to be a “person.” accordingto Isaiah 42:1-4

“Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect,in whom my soul delighteth: I have put my Spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentile.”3-A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax he shall he notquench: he shall bringforth Judgment unto truth. 4- Heshall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for His LAW.” Isaiah 42:1-4

For the LAW was given by Moses… (John.1:17)

Moses (S) was a law giver and here the Comforteris a new law giver!

 Afterthe coming of the universal Rev.14:12say:

“…hereare they that keep the commandment of God, and the faith of Jesus…”

That conforms that the “Everlasting Good News” is the commandment ofGod, the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong), and the trueteaching of Jesus (S) which is his faith.

Also in verse 13 after that book theeverlasting Good News which is the universal commandment of God would have comeand all those who follow it and died after they will be blessing for theirlabor and work and they will be judge by it.

…Blessedare the dead which die in the Lordhenceforth yea, said the Spirit, that theymay rest from their labor; and their work do fallow them. (Rev.14:13)

…andthe dead were judged out of the things which were written in the book,according to their works. (Rev. 20:12)

…andthey were judged every man according to their works. (Rev.20:13)

This is what Allah (S) said:

“Thinknot of those who are slain in Allah’sway as dead. Nay, they live, finding there sustenance in their Lord…The (Martyrs) glory in the fact that onthem is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve.” (Q.3:169-1700)

“Whoever goes aright,for his own soul does he go aright; and whoever goes astray, to its detrimentonly does he go astray: nor can the bearer of a burden bear the burden ofanother, nor do We chastise until We raise a messenger” [The Qur’an, 17:15],

“On the day when everysoul will be confronted with all the good it has done, and all theevil it has done, it will wish there were a great distance between it andits evil. But Allah cautions you {to remember} Himself.” (Q.3:30)

To my Christian’s brothers and sisters, Allah (S) has given you thenoble call to save you from eternal damnation, He (S) said:

“O yePeople of the Book! Believe in what We have (now) revealed, conforming what was(already) with you…” (Q.4: 47)

…Truth has (now) come, and falsehoodperished: for falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish. (Q.17:81)

THEN HE (S) WARNS:

“Those who concealthe clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after We have made it clear for the people in the Book,-on them shall beAllah's curse, and the curse ofthose entitled to curse,”

 THE SEALING OF THE BOOK AND THEOPENING OF THE SEAL BOOK

In the book of Daniel the Godof the bible seal the understanding of all the messages in the scriptures ontill the end time then he will reveal it or reveal all the truth. This is whatthe God Almighty says:

And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up andsealed till the time of the end.( Daniel12: 9)  

But thou, O Daniel, s*****p the words, and seal the book, even to the timeof the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. (Daniel 12:4)

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but thewicked shall do wickedly: and none ofthe wicked shall understand; but thewise shall understand. (Daniel12:10)

Coming of that “seal book” that mentioned in Revelation 10 is the “key” to unlock all the scriptures atthe end time:

“But in the days of the voice of the seventhangel, when he shall “begin to sound:” the “mystery of God shouldfinish” as he declared to his servants the prophets.” (Rev.10:7)

  In the days when thislittle book shall reveal “all themystery (all the truth) of God will finish (revealed).” The book was neverwritten according to John: “seal upthose things…and write them not.”

 All the truth with the coming ofthe Qur’an:

“… And Wehave sent down to you the Book (the Qur'an) as an exposition of everything, a guidance, a mercy, and glad tidings forthose who have submitted themselves (to Allâh as Muslims)”. (Qur’an 16:89)

Allah the almighty reminds the people who call themselves Christian oftheir forgetfulness:

“Fromthose, too, who called themselvesChristians We did take a Covenant, Butthey forgot a good part of themessage that was sent down: So We stirred up enmity and hatred between theone and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them whatit is they have done. (Q.5:14)

This is what they have forgotten:

“And(remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children ofIsrael! I am the Messenger of Allâh unto you confirming the Taurât [(Torah)which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come afterme, whose name shall be Ahmed.’ But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad) came tothem with clear proofs, they said: ‘This is plain magic.’” (Qur’an 61:6-9)

Then He Allah (S) said:

“O Peopleof the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger, revealing to you much that you used to hide in your Book, and passing over much (that is now unnecessary):There hath come to you from Allah a light [Muhammad (pbuh)] and a perspicuousBook.” (Q.5:15)

…So fearAllah, and obey me [Muhammad (S) and the message he brought]. (Q.3:50)

Verilythis Qur’an doith guide to that which is most right. (Q.17:9)

Just to elaborate, I would explain twopoints:

1)    Isaiahis having a vision of a book that isseal.

2)    Whenthat seal book is givento someone who is learned theywould not understand it.

  The Quran is a book that is seal. Tounderstand it we have to use the explanation of Muhammad’s (S) which is His’sunnah. Example: Quran tells us to pray but it does not explain how to performsit, we have to seek the explanation of The Prophet (S) that we call the sunnah.The sunnah is also a revelation from Allah (S) a brief explanation willsuffice. 

 Allah (S) mentioned in the Qur’an:

Had not the Grace of Allâh and His Mercy been upon you (O Muhammad),a party of them would certainly have made a decision to mislead you, but (infact) they mislead none except their own selves, and no harm can they do to youin the least. Allâh has sent down toyou the Book (The Qur'ân),and AlHikmah (Islâmiclaws, knowledge of legal and illegal things i.e. the Prophet's Sunnah - legal ways), and taught you that which youknew not. And Ever Great is the Grace of Allâh unto you (O Muhammad).(Qur’an11:3)

 Just to look at two points in that verse: Allah (S) has sent down two things the book and AlHikmah(wisdom) and He taught Muhammad (S) what he didn’t Knew before.

 Commenting on this verse Imam ash-Shaafi'ee's said:

"Allah has mentionedthat 'the book' (Al-Kitaab) which is the Quran and he mentioned 'The wisdom'(al- Hikmah) and I have learnt from the people of knowledgr that  'al-hikmah' is the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger (S).........."

Allah tells us in the Quran16:64 

”And we have revealed the Book (al-kitaab) unto thee only thatthou mayst explain unto them that wherein they differ, and (as) aguidance and a mercy for a people who believe.” (Quran16:64) 

    Exactly asIsaiah prophesy! Without the explanations (The Sunnah) “the one learned” would not understand it; and the book was givento an illiterate prophet saying: “Read”, and he would have to reply: “I am notlearned”. Exactly, that is what happened to Muhammad (S) according history.

3)    "AND" the book is given to someone who is not learned.

4)    Andhe would say: "I am not learned."

     That seal bookis the same one that mentioned in Revelation chapter 10 which I have alreadyexplained in chapter 5 which John didnot wrote but is yet to come.

 Why God Almighty send the seal book with an unlettered Prophet? Isaiah (S) tellsus:

“Whereforethe Lord said, Forasmuch as this peopledraw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but haveremove their heart far from me, and their fear towards me is taught by theprecept of men. (Isaiah.29:13).

   Becauseof what the Jews were doing The God of Isaiah closed your eyes of the Jewish prophets, and their rulers.

 “For the LORD hath poured out upon youthe spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets, and your rulers, the seers. hath he covered.”  (Isaiah 29:10 KJV)

 RememberGod Almighty was talking to Isaiah and he addressing the Jews there for thefollow the law of men instead of the law of God Almighty and they honor Himwith their lips and not their heart so He closes prophet hood with them. It wasalso mentioned in Islam:

Adee ibnHaatim said: I heard Allah’s Messenger (pubh) recite: They (Jews and theChristian) took their Rabbis and their Monks to be their Lords beside Allah.(Q.9:31)

So Isaid, “O Messenger of Allah, they did not worship them,” so He (pbuh) said,“Verily if they {Rabbis and Monks} made something permissible for them, thenthey made it permissible and if they made something forbidden to them, theymade it forbidden- that is their worship of them.” [Reported byat-Tirmidhee(5/278)]

Jesus (s) also conform the same thing in Matthew15

15 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were ofJerusalem, saying,

² Why do thy disciplestransgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when theyeat bread.

³ But he answered andsaid unto them, Why do ye alsotransgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Their traditionis their man-made law, their opinions.

⁴ For God commanded,saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother,let him die the death.

⁵ But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, bywhatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;

⁶ And honour not hisfather or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment ofGod of none effect by your tradition.

⁷ Ye hypocrites, welldid Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

⁸ This people drawethnigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but theirheart is far from me.

⁹ But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandmentsof men.

Luke added in7: 13:

¹³ Making the word of God of none effect through yourtradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. (Luke7:13)

¹⁰ And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:

¹¹ Not that which goethinto the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, thisdefileth a man.

   In other words, eating without washing ofthe hand is not from the word of God so doing it does not defiled you; andJesus (s) said, it has to root out, not to be obeyed in verse 13:

¹² Then came hisdisciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended,after they heard this saying?

¹³ But he answered andsaid, Every plant, which my heavenlyFather hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

He thencontinued:

¹⁴ Let them alone: theybe blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fallinto the ditch.

¹⁵ Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable.

¹⁶ And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?

¹⁷ Do not ye yetunderstand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, andis cast out into the draught?

¹⁸ But those things whichproceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.

¹⁹ For out of the heartproceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, falsewitness, blasphemies:

²⁰ These are the thingswhich defile a man: but to eat withunwashen hands defileth not a man.

    Why unwashed hand defiled not a man? Because it is not of the law it istheir opinion, their traditions: “³ But he answered and said unto them, Whydo ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?” ^…13 But he answered and said,Every plant, which my heavenly Fatherhath not planted, shall be rooted up. In other words, their tradition is not from God or theword of God and it should be obeyed. Same story mentioned in Mark 7:

⁷ Howbeit in vain dothey worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

⁸ For laying aside thecommandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots andcups: and many other such like things ye do.

⁹ And he said unto them,Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your owntradition. (Mark 7:7-9)

Note: I want to make one important point; Christians are using thispassage to give them license to eat Pork and other unclean meat the lawforbidden. Jesus (s) never give the green light to eat unclean meat in thepassage, he give them green light to eat with unwashed hand because it is notfrom the law; eating of pork in against the law of God:  ^8 “And the swine,because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touchtheir dead carcase”. (Deut.14:8).

 After said that this is what the God Almighty said he will do whenhe would have sent that seal book:

“Therefore,behold, I will proceed to do a marvelouswork among this people, even a marvelouswork and wonder: for the wisdom oftheir wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent menshall be hid.” (Isaiah29:14)

   Then He passes judgment onthe Jews who follow man made law, [and their feartowards me is taught by the precept ofmen. (Isaiah.29:13)]. Hesaid:

“Woeunto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their workare in darkness, and they say, who Seeth us? And who knoweth us? Surely yourturning of things up-side down shall be esteemed as the putter’s clay…” (V.15-16)

The Jews stop seeking God’s help and following all his law in totally, theirleadership no longer sanctioned by God, they are in total darkness thinking GodAlmighty is not seeing them so they start changing the law of God with theirown man-made law (turning things up-side down but every law they change will benone effect. 

He God Almighty then informs them in the day when that seal book wouldhave come the deaf will understand and the blind shall see, in other words whoare blind they will recognize the truth and only the unjust will reject thetruth.

And inthat day shall the deaf hearthe word of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall seeout of obscurity and out of darkness. The meek also shall increase theirjoy in the Lord, and they among men shall rejoice in the Holy one of Israel.(Isaiah.29:18-19)

It mentioned there: “And in thatday”. Which day? That is the day when that seal book would have deliveredto the illiterate prophet then shall the deaf hear the word of thebook, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darknessand the meek shall increase their joy in the Lord.

Notice in verse 19 it mentioned there: “they among men shall rejoice in the Holy one of Israel”How suddenly the O.T arrived with the “Holy One of Israel” where as in Verse 10the God of the O.T.  has poured out aspirit of deep sleep and closed the eye of the Prophets of the Jews? It is acontradiction! “For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit ofdeep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets, and your rulers, the seers. hath he covered.”  (Isaiah 29:10 KJV). The prophet-hood end there for the Jews. No illiterateJewish prophet ever fulfill this prophesy until this day! That’s a concoction!

 He Allah (S) mentioned in theQur’an when He said:

“OChildren of Israel! Call to mind the (special) favors which I bestowed uponyou, and I preferred you to all others (of your time period, in the past).(Q.2:47)

 BUT HE ALLAH (S) SAID, THE JEWS

…in thatthey broke the Covenant; that they reject the signs of Allah; that theyslew the Messengers in defiance of right…Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for theirblasphemy…That they REJECTED FAITH.” (Q.4:155-156)

 And this book came after Jesus (S), so it was given to theComforter. Coming of that book the kingdom of God will be taken away from theJews.

THEKINGDOM OF GOD SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE JEWS.

Jesus said unto them (Jews), Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stone which the builders reject thesame is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord’s doings, and it is marvelous in our eyes. (Matt.21:42)

And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall broken: but whomsoever itshall fall, it will grind him to powder. (Matt.21:44)

  What is marvelous in our eyes? It is the message; it will bearfruit and be marvelous in our eyes. If you reject Jesus (S) you rejecthis message, and the stone “representhis message” Sure, Jesus (S) is not“marvelous in our eyes,” His message does, and whosoever tries to destroythat Message shall not succeed, and where so ever the message goes it willprevail. What Isaiah said? Let’s see how it falls in context with Isaiah 20:14:

“Therefore,behold, I will proceed to do a marvelouswork among this people, even amarvelous work and wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.”(Isaiah 29: 14)

 Jesus (S) said:

“Thereforesay I unto you The kingdom of God shall taken from you, and given to a nationbringing forth the fruits thereof.” (Matt.21: 43)

  That nation is no other thanIshmaelite, Abraham’s (S) seeds. The God of Abraham’s promise to blessAbraham’s son Ishmael and make him a Greatnation:

“And asfor Ishmael…Behold, I have blessed him,and will make him fruitful, and multiply him exceedingly…and I willmake a GREAT NATION.” (Genesis 17:20).

That prophecy fulfilled with the arrival of Muhammad (S) who is adescendant of Abraham (S) true his son Ishmael (S). It isn’t true Muhammad (S)message bear fruit and creates a congregation that is marvelous in our eyes?Look at Mecca, the largest congregation on the face of the earth bringingpeople of all races and colour, the rich and the poor standing side by sideshoulder to shoulder worshiping the one true God Allah (S)?

  In Isaiah42 tells us thatthe Kedarites who is the descendants of Ishmael [13 And these are the names of the sons ofIshmael, by their names, according to their generations… Kedar…( Genesis 25:13) was in darkness and God Almightywill bring them from darkness to light.

Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice,the village that Kedar doth inhabit:let the inhabitants of the rock, let them shout from the top of the mountains.(Isaiah.42:11)  

“And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I willlead them in the path that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crookedthings straight. These things will I do unto them (Kedarites:Ishmaelite), and not forsake them.” (Isaiah 42:16)

 God Almighty did not forget the Ishmaelite he brings them out ofdarkness into light, he lead them into a path they knew not with the advent ofMuhammad (S).

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ISAIAH 29: THEPROPHET THAT RECEIVES THE SEAL BOOK

  Isaiah tells us inch.29:11-19 who received that “sealed Book” that mentioned in Rev. 10:2-4? “A little Book open…SEAL up those things…andwrite them not.”

In Isaiah 29, God Almighty was revealing to Isaiah a prophecy of thefuture tense, he said: “add ye year to year”. Verse 1 to 7 was about a vision of two sets of people, one will bedestroyed and one will be save; and Verse 8 to 21 mentioned of a book that is seal and it would bedelivered to someone who do not know to how read and at that junction the Godof the bible would close the eyes of the Jewish’s Prophets, ruler and seers [For theLORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed youreyes: the prophets, and your rulers,the seers. hath he covered.” (Isaiah 29:10 KJV)]; and remove thewisdom of the wise man by created a world system that would be “marvelous inyour eyes” [Therefore, behold, I will proceed todo a marvelous work among thispeople, even a marvelous work and wonder:for the wisdom of their wise men shallperish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.”(Isaiah29:14)]; and He God Almighty mentioned in verse 18: “And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book,and the eyes of the blind shallsee out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

Also In Isaiah.28 which ties intoIsaiah 29, God Almighty tells us how evil the Jews and their leaders will be: “But they (Jews) also have erred through wine, and throughstrong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet are swallowed up ofwine, they are out of the way through strong drink; the err in vision, theystumble in judgment. For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so thatthere is no place clean. Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he makeunderstand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from thebreast.” Isaiah.28:7-9. That will happen in the future withyet another prophesy of the coming of Muhammad (S), He (S) was describes as“Mighty Strong One” in Isaiah.28:2.(See explanation of Isaiah 28 in Ch. 7)

v  ISAIAH 29

It begins:

¹Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add yeyear to year; let them kill sacrifices.

God Almighty is talking about the city where David (S) dweltthat is in Jerusalem in future tense (add ye years to years), Jerusalemwill be unto God Almighty as Ariel  andHe described what will happen to Ariel: 

²Yet I will distress Ariel, and there shall beheaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.

³And I will camp against thee roundabout, and will lay siege against thee with a mount, and I will raiseforts against thee.

⁴And thou shalt be brought down, andshalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of thedust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out ofthe ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust.

Allthose “thou and thee” suppose to referring to the “Jews” but the versementioned:

“⁵Moreover the multitude of thystrangers shall be like small dust, and the multitudeof the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passethaway: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly.”

There God Almighty is talking about two sets of peoplein Jerusalem One will be like dust and the other will be as chaffpasseth away; that is the multitude of thy strangers and themultitude of the terrible ones. Who are the strangers and who are theterrible ones? Only one set of people were to be save (the strangers) who arethey? God Almighty shall bring his wrath on the “multitude of the terribleones”:

⁶Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder,and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest,and the flame of devouring fire.

I’ve repeat verse 5 to put the destruction in context:

Then “…the multitude of thy strangers shall belike small dust, and the multitude of the terrible onesshall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instantsuddenly.V5

In other words, God Almighty will destroy the “multitudeof the terrible ones” with flames of devouring fire, earthquake and storm;they will be as chaff that passed away in an instant suddenly and on the otherhand, “thy strangers” will remain there being like small dust.

   Who are the terribleones and who are thy strangers? Let us find out.

It mentioned in verse7

“Andthe multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all thatfight against her and her munition, and that distress her,shall be as a dream of a night vision.” V.7

If all nations will fight against Ariel then who is Ariel orwhat is Ariel? It says in verse1-2

“Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye yearto year; let them kill sacrifices. ²Yet I will distressAriel, and there shall be heaviness and sorrow: and it shall be unto me as Ariel.V.1-2

God Almighty is talking about the city where David (S) dweltthat is in Jerusalem, it will be unto God Almighty as Ariel and God Almightycall Ariel “Her” in Verse 7: “⁷And the multitude of all thenations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against herand her munition, and that distress her…”

“Her” would have to be “thy stranger” and “Her” also refers tothe “church” in the future tense. According to some Christian’s Scholars“woman” represents church and some says “woman” represents the Jewish’s nationand they were always addressed as “her”. Why in the Old Testament theywere addresses as “her” was because the Church was with them. However, thewoman represents the “church” and not the “Jewish nation!” I havealready give a full explained in chapter 2.

Again if we look at Rev.12 verse 6and14; and Rev.11 verse 4 both tied into each other and it reflects the meaningof the “WOMAN” as the Church. It mentioned:

“And the womanfled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed herthere a thousand two hundred andthreescore days. (Rev.12:6)  

“And to the womanwere given two wings…that she might fly into the wilderness,into her place where she isnourished for a time, and time, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. (Rev.12:14)

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, And theyshall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed insackcloth. These are the two olivetrees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.(Rev.11:3-4)  

The evidence that the womanrepresents the church is that the woman was given “two wings” and fled into thewilderness for 1,260 days where the same period also reflect in Rev.11:4. Those“two wings” are the two witnesses, the two olive trees and two candles stick;and the Candlesticks represent churches: 

“…the seven candlestickwhich thou sawest are sevenchurches.” Rev.1:20

So,we can conclude that the “woman” represents the “Church”

Also if we go to Revelation 19 andread verse 7-9 we would recognize that the woman represents the church. Itmentioned:

“Letus be glad and rejoice, and give honor to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that sheshould be arrayed in fine linen,clean and white: for the fine linen isthe righteousness of the saint.” (Rev.19:7-8)

The saints that mentioned inRevelation 19:7-8 are the believersand they came from “her and she” which is referring to the “church” when the church would have well established for the comingof the Messiah. So we can see from that proof the “woman” represents the“Church” and not the Jewish’s nation.

Now, the “multitude of the terrible ones” wasdescribed as “all Nations” who would be fight against the “churchin the future” then God Almighty will destroy them with flames of devouringfire, earthquake and storm; when the destruction will come upon them verse 7- 8mentioned the state in which they will be in:

“And the multitude of all the nations that fight againstAriel… shall be as a dream of a night vision. ⁸Itshall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but heawaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold,he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hathappetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight againstmount Zion.” V.7-8

You see it mentioned mount Zion that would be new mountZion. This whole night vision would become a book that is seal, and it would bethen given to an illiterate person and the church will be with his followerswho will be like strangers in Jerusalem in the future. When all nations wouldfight against them suddenly the final destruction will come upon them.

V6Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder,and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame ofdevouring fire.

And the vision of all is become untoyou as a word of a book that is SEALED, which men deliver to one that islearned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it issealed.Isaiah.29: 11 (KJV)

12And the book is delivered to him that is notlearned, saying, read this I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. (Isaiah.29: 12 KJV)

Mr. Ron Web, It’s not a language barrier; itis your opinion you are trying to read into God’s “COMMANDMENT” to the Jews. Ifit means what you are saying it would not be a commandment for the Jews to obey instead it be a commandment for God to obey because he is the one whogives and takes eternal life. So, Think of another opinion again!

Br. zainool

It's not just my opinion, Br. Zainool.  Maybe there is a language barrier here, but let me assure you that "let him die" is fundamentally different from "kill him".  We all die a physical death eventually, so the Biblical passage obviously does not refer to that.  It refers to the promise of everlasting life beyond physical death, which is awarded to believers but denied to wrongdoers.

Mr.Ron Wed, don’t try that with me! There is a big difference between“COMMANDMENT” to obeyed and your “OPINION”. “Let him die a natural death andnot receive everlasting life” is that a COMMANDMENT the Jews have transgresses?Please explained to me the commandment.

³ But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

⁴ For Godcommanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, Hethat curseth father or mother, let himdie the death.

Br.zainool

Mr. Ron Webb, “Islam has frozen in the dark age” is yourwishful thinking; too bad for you. All the man made law will fail. This is whatwill happen, as was prophecy in Isaiah 29. The God of Abraham (S) will send abook and it will and create a congregation that will unite all nations and bemarvelous in our eyes and the “wisdom of the wise man will perish” (all the manmade laws will perish).

12Andthe book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this I praythee: and he saith, I am not learned. (Isaiah.29: 12 KJV)

  History recorded that Muhammad (s) usedto go up mountain cave, called Ghar-Hera, in Arabia (Mt. Paran) to meditate.While he was there an angel, later identified as Gabriel, commanded him saying:“read” and he respond by saying: “I am not learned,” the angel repeatthe act three times, then Muhammad (S) began to repeat the command of the angelwhich became the first five verse of surah 96, Al-Alaq, of the Qur’an. 

Read: In the name of thy Lord who created.Created man from a clot. Read: and thy Lord is the Most Bounteous, Who taughtby the pen, Taught man which he knew not. (Q.96:1-5)

 Allah conform itin the Quran:

Those who fallow theMessenger, the unlettered Prophet,whom they find mention in their own(Scriptures), In the Taurat {Torah} and the Injeel (Gospel). (Q.7:157).

And thou (O Muhammad) wasnot (able) to recite a book before this (book came), nor art thou (able) totranscribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed, would the talkers ofvanity have doubted. (Q.29:48)

Nor does he say (aught)of (his own) desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He wastaught by one mighty in power. (Q.53:3-5)

Isaiahtell us why:

“Wherefore the Lord said,Forasmuch as this people draw near mewith their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have remove their heartfar from me, and their fear towards me is taught by the precept of men. (Isaiah.29:13).

“Therefore, behold, Iwill proceed to do a marvelous workamong this people, even a marvelous workand wonder: for the wisdom of theirwise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall behid.” (Isaiah29:14)

   Then He passes judgment on those whofollow the man made law. He said:

“Woe unto them that seekdeep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their work are in darkness, and they say, who Seethus? And who knoweth us? Surely your turning of things up-side down shall beesteemed as the putter’s clay…” (V.15-16)

Man-madelaw does not and will not sanction by God. Those who created them and those whofollow them are in total darkness.

He GodAlmighty informs us in the day when that seal book would have come the deafwill understand and the blind shall see, in other words who are blind they willrecognize the truth.

And in that day shallthe deaf hear the word of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall seeout of obscurity and out of darkness. The meek also shall increase theirjoy in the Lord…(Isaiah.29:18-19)

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Jesus (s) described it as the kingdom of God:

Jesus said unto them (Jews),Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stonewhich the builders reject the same is become the head of the corner: Thisis the Lord’s doings, and it is marvelousin our eyes. (Matt.21:42)

And whosoever shall fall onthis stone shall broken: but whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him topowder. (Matt.21:44)

Jesus (S)said:

“Therefore say I unto youThe kingdom of God shall taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forththe fruits thereof.” (Matt.21: 43)

  That nation is no other than Ishmaelite,Abraham’s (S) seeds. The God of Abraham’s promise to bless Abraham’s sonIshmael and make him a Great nation:

“And as forIshmael…Behold, I have blessed him,and will make him fruitful, and multiply him exceedingly…and I willmake a GREAT NATION.” (Genesis 17:20).

Br. zainool

First, I should probably apologize for a somewhat grumpy response -- and maybe one day I will; but right now I am indeed feeling a bit grumpy about Muslim apologists, what with Libya and Yemen and Pakistan and all.  IMHO you really are defending the indefensible.

We were talking about Deuteronomy 13:6-9 and 2 Chronicles 15:13, which make it very clear that we are commanded by God to kill anyone who preaches a different religion.  Truthnowcome's argument is that this Judeo-Christian edict is the same message that was proclaimed by Mohammad.

The difference, however, is that with rare exceptions most modern Christians treat such passages as purely historical.  Muslims, on the other hand, continue to defend such extremism, apparently because they have no other choice.  There is no precedent in Islam to say that the teachings and the attitudes prevalent in Muhammad's time and place are no longer applicable.  Thus, Islam is frozen in the dark ages, and seems doomed to remain so.

Maybe I misunderstood you, but your response to the two Biblical passages was to describe them as "absolute Justice".  If that is the case, then I give up.  There is no response I can offer against that degree of intolerance.

No, I'm not misunderstanding anything.  In the analogy, the television corresponds to religion.    It is the person selling the wrong television/religion that we are commanded to kill.  Nice try, though.

He "wanted to see"?  If God is omniscient, He already knows who will choose what.  He knows (because He made me as I am) that the flimsy evidence offered by "messengers" thousands of years ago is simply not good enough to make me believe in their far-fetched claims.  I am not free to choose what I believe, any more than you are free to disbelieve.

If you consider it "justice" to murder someone simply for expressing a sincere misunderstanding of God or religion, then we have nothing more to say to one another.

Let's go back to the original quote that caught my attention:

So a more accurate statement of iec786's analogy would be: Suppose you purchase a television, and then you find that according to the instruction manual, if anyone tries to sell you a different brand of TV you are obligated to kill him or her.  And even that isn't quite accurate, because "purchase" implies that we had some brand choice in the first place.  Nope, God has a monopoly, which He enforces by threats of violence and murder.  I don't understand how anyone can find that worthy of worship.

Again, there is a vast difference between "don't do this or you will damage your television", versus "don't do this or I will send my technicians to invade your house and destroy your television -- and then destroy you."  (By the way, Hasan: I find it hard to believe that you would fail to notice just how bad this analogy is. You're smarter than that.)

Mr. Ron Webb, I thought you would haverecognize why I have include that verse even though it was not relavant to thatpresentation. Let me put it this way, The God whom the Jews, Christians amdMuslims claimed to follow is very serious about his legislation (His will) andanyone who break it the consequence is serious. Let me show you what I amtalking about! Jesus (s) rebuke the Jews for not follow his law in Matthew 15

1Thencame to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,

² Why do thy disciples transgress thetradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.

³ But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

⁴ For God commanded, saying, Honour thy fatherand mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

Accordingto Jesus (S) there not only to disbelieve and worship other diety than the Godof Abraham you will be put to death but even curse your parent. He furtherexplained the seriousness and consequence of not to follow the law and teachesothers to do so in Matthew 5:18-19

“Anyonewho breaks one of the least of these commandmentsand teaches othersto do so, willbe called least in the kingdom of heaven.....” (Matthew 5:19)

Christians as well as the Jews do not follow the law; theJews are parcial with the law and the Christians are following Paul’scommandments instead of what Jesus (s) teaches them to do in orther to haveeternal life. It’s also in Matthew 19:16-17, he established how serious it isif you want to have eternal life, you must keep the commandment, it mentioned: 

And,behold, one came and said unto him [Jesus (S)], Good Master, whatgood thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, why callest thou me good? There is none good butone, that is, God: butif thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (:Matt.19:16-17KJV)

  The Muslim has a similar law also, if youbecome defected and join the enemy you will be put to death. So yes we followthe same God also!

Bro Zainool

And this is the same god that you worship?

All Praises are forAllah (S) the Creator and Sustainer. I seek his blessing on our noble ProphetMuhammad (S).

In Islam Muslims werethought that Islam is the first and only religion recognize by Allah (S) (GodAlmighty). Why Islam? It is because Islam is an Arabic word...when translatedto English would mean: “peace and complete submission to the will of GodAlmighty”; in other words: peace acquired by total submission to the will ofGod Almighty.

 If we go back to the origin of man, the firstman Adam (S) as the scriptures established, we would recognize that he wasorder by God Almighty to “submit to His will” in order to received help and guidance;thus, he believed in “submitting to God’s will” which when translates in toArabic would be “ISLAM”; so Islam was there from the very beginning of Adam(S). The Qur’an is just the last message to all mankind [The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will)…But if youdeny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account. (Q.3:19)]. It is God Almighty who chooses the name “ISLAM” for his religion.

Why am I sayingthat? It is because Islam is not a new religion, it is the religion of all theprophet of the past; they all believe in the “submission to God’s will (Islam)

“For We assuredly sent amongst every People an apostle, (with theCommand), "Serve Allah, and eschew Evil": of the People were somewhom Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). Sotravel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (theTruth).” (Qur.16:36); and ‘We sent not anapostle except (to teach) in thelanguage of his (own) people, in order to make (things) clear to them.Now Allah leaves straying those whom He pleases and guides whom He pleases: andHe is Exalted in power, full of Wisdom’.” (Qur.14:4)

  For example Jesus (S) was sent to theChildren of Israel: “But he answered andsaid, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”  (Matthew15:24);These twelve Jesus sent forth, andcommanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and intoany city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”(Matthew10:5-6)

Muhammad (S) onthe other hand was sent as a universal Messenger to all mankind, Allah (S)mentioned in Qur’an:

“We have not sent thee but as a (universalmessenger) to all mankind…but most of mankind knew not”. (Q.34:28)

The Quran whichis the final revelation from Allah (S), it is for all mankind and Jinn (spiritbeing) and it’s a confirmation of previous revelations and fuller explanationof Allah (S) message.

“This Qur'an is not such as can be produced byother than Allah. on the contrary it isa confirmation of(revelations) that went before it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein there is no doubt - fromthe Lord of the worlds.” (Qur.10:37)

 We all came from the first man and woman, Adamand Eve, then a nation, then many nations and tribe. Revelation was sent tomankind since the beginning for guidance and Allah (S) mentioned, those peopledid not differ among themselves except through selfish contumacy and Allah (S)honored the most righteous among the mankind. 

“O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may knoweach other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allahis (he who is) the most righteous ofyou. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with allthings).  (Qur.49:13)

Mankind was onesingle nation, and Allah sentMessengers with glad tidings and warnings; and with them He sent the Book intruth, to judge between people in matters wherein they differed; but the peopleof the Book, after the clear Signs came to them, did not differ amongthemselves, except through selfish contumacy. Allah by His Grace Guidedthe believers to the Truth, concerning that wherein they differed. For Allahguided whom He will to a path that is straight.” (Qur.2:213)

The noble call to peopleof the book:

Say:"O people of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That weworship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erectnot, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If thenthey turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims(bowing to Allah's Will). (Q.3:64)

     The God of the Israelites declared death penalty in Deuteronomy 13:6-9 and in Chronicles 15:13, ifanyone even your own brother or yourson or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend encourage you tosecretly worship other deity than the God of Israel he or she must put todeath.

"If your very own brother, or your sonor daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you,saying: Let us go and worship othergods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known,gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the landto the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen tohim. Show him no pity.Do not spare him or shield him. You mustcertainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting himto death, and then the hands ofall the people." (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)

"All who would not seek the LORD, the God ofIsrael, were to be put to death,whether small or great, man or woman."( Chronicles 15:13)

The one whosubmitted to God’s will is call Muslim. Muslim is also an Arabic word whichmeans, “obey and submit”; and all the prophet of the past were “obeyed andsubmitter” to God’s will; thus, they were Muslims.

Jesus (S) in his final message he looks up to the Heaven and givesthanks to God Almighty for affording him to give eternal life to all whom GodAlmighty has chosen; and that is to believe in the one true God and Jesus theMessiah whom He has sent.

“1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes toheaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son alsomay glorify thee:²As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to asmany as thou hast given him.”( John 17:1-2)

This is what he said:

“³And this is life eternal, that they (the disciples or whocall themselves Christian) might knowthee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou (the only true God) hast sent.” (John 17:1-2);And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me,Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him onlyshalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

That is the declarationof faith at the time of Jesus (S), in other words, is to believe in no other deity except the one true God Allah (S) andJesus (S) is the messenger of Allah (S) and you will received ETERNAL LIFE.Same declaration Muslims make except that at the end they say, Muhammad (S) isthe messenger of Allah (S). That is to say: “I testify that there is no otherdeity except Allah (S) and I testify that Muhammad (S) is the messenger ofAllah (S).”

The message of Jesus (S) was to preach the GoodNews of coming of God’s Kingdom on earth and that message was to inform us of the coming of theuniversal message: “the Qur’an”.

To make thatclaimed I must establish the proof, without evidence there is no case. I’llbegin by quoting what Jesus (S) said.

Jesus (S) said: "I must preach the kingdom of God to the other citiesalso, BECAUSE FOR THIS PURPOSE I HAVE BEEN SENT" Luke 4:43 NKJV);

From that statement we can no doubtrecognize the purpose of Jesus (S) message. His core message was to inform usof the coming of God’s kingdom on earth and that is why he told his disciplesto pray for the coming of it. He said: “Afterthis manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowedbe thy name.10Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as itis in heaven.”Matthew 6:9

Thatwould mean the kingdom of God was yet to come in the future tense, even todayPeople who claimed to be followers of Jesus (S)…they are still awaiting for thecoming of God’s kingdom on earth.

After thedemise of Jesus (S) one of his’ disciple had a vision of prophesy which isknown today as the “Book of Revelation”; and in that book, in chapter 12 verses5 to 10 it mentioned of a male child, when he would have come then “SAVATIONAND THE KINGDOM OF GOD” will come. I quote:  “And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron…Now comes Salvation andstrength, and the kingdom of our God…12:5-10.)”

Also,in that book, it mentioned of “an angel” bringing another book from “Heaven” topreach to all nations and tongue…it was a universal message for all mankind. Iquote: ““AndI (John) saw another angel fly in themidst of haven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on theearth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. Saying with aloud voice,Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.”(Rev.14:6-7 ).

The Kingdom ofGod would be taken away from the Jews: “Jesus said unto them (Jews), Did ye never read in the scriptures, the stone which the buildersreject the same is become the head of the corner: This is the Lord’s doings,and it is marvelous in our eyes. Thereforesay I unto you The kingdom of God shall taken from you (The Jews), and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoevershall fall on this stone shall broken: but whomsoever it shall fall, it willgrind him to powder.” (Matt.21:42-44)

The “kingdom of God” wasJesus spoke of was “a message to come”, he described it as a corner stone thatwill bare fruits and be MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES, and no other message would beable destroy it and where ever the message establish it will prevail over allother message (man made law).

Allah (S) mentioned inthe Qur’an: It is He (God Almighty)who has sent His Messenger [Muhammad (S)] with guidance and the religion oftruth (Islam) that He may make it prevail over all religions and enough isAllah for a witness. (Q.48:28)

     AsI have established above that Islam is not a new religion, it is the religionof all the prophets; I have establish that the kingdom of God was yet to come,another book…which is a “universal one” is yet to come and a man child who willrule all nations was yet to come.

Now, to conforming that “judgment” is the“law” that mentioned there it mentioned in Isaiah 42:1-4:“Behold my servant,whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth: I have put my Spiritupon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentile…4- Heshall not fail nor be discouraged, till he has set judgment in theearth: and the isles shall wait for His LAW. (Isaiah.42:1-4)

“And whenhe (the Comforter) is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness,and of judgment.” (John.16:8)

As we can see the everlasting GoodNews for all nations is the Judgment to the Gentiles, which is God’severlasting law on earth.

QUR’AN CONFORMS:

“Wehave not sent thee (O Muhammad) but as a universal Messenger to all mankind…butmost of mankind know not.” (Qur.34:28).

  “Blessed is He who sentdown the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong) to HisServant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures.” (Q.25:1) “Thus have We revealed it (theQur’an) to be a judgment of authority in Arabic” (Q.13:37)

Ramadhan is the (month)in which was sent down the Qur'an,as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and Judgment (Between right and wrong). (Qur’an 2:185)

A book, whereof theverses are explained in detail-A Qur’an in Arabic, for people who understand-Giving Good News and admonition: yet mostof them turn away, and so they hear not. (Q.41:3-4)

 …it is no less than a Message for allcreatures (mankind and jinn). (Q.12:104)

Say, the Holy Spirit(Angel Gabriel) has brought the revelation from thy Lord in truth, in order tostrengthen those who believe, and as a guide, and Glad Tidings toMuslims. (Q.16:102)“This Qur'an is not such as can be produced by other thanAllah. on the contrary it is a confirmation of (revelations) that wentbefore it, and a fuller explanation of the Book - wherein thereis no doubt - from the Lord of the worlds.” (Qur.10:37)

Withoutdoubt it is (announced) in the reveled books (Torah, Gospel) of former people.(Q.26:196) And this is a book which We have sent down, bringing blessingand conforming (the revelation) which came before it. (Q.6:92)

1.    …so fear Allah and obey me. (Q.3:50); ye who believe!Fear Allah as He should fear, and die not except in a state of Islam.(Q.3:102)

2.    And glorify Him morning and evening. (Q.33:42)

3.    Thus have We revealed it (the Qur’an) to be a judgment ofauthority in Arabic (Q.13:37)

What Revelation 14-7 says? 

Itsays: “Fear God and Give Glory to him;for the hour of his judgment is come!”

Our job asMuslims it to conveyed the message to every one: “…Andsay to the People of the Book…“Do ye (also) submit yourselves?... thy duty is to convey the Message; andin Allah’s sight are (all) His servants. (Q.3:20); “Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom andbeautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and mostgracious: For thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His path, and whoreceive guidance.” (Q.16:125)

Allah (S) tellsus:Say: “O People of the Book! Do yedisapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and therevelation that comes to us and that which came before (us)…?” (Q.5:59)

       The fulfillment of the Ishmaelite’sprophesy. The God of Abraham’s promise to bless Abraham’s son Ishmael and makehim a Great nation: “And as for Ishmael…Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and multiply himexceedingly…and I will make a GREATNATION.” (Genesis 17:20).

…And nearest among them in love to the Believers(Muslims) wilt thou find those who say, Weare Christians Because among these are mendevoted to learning and who have renounced the world, and they are notarrogant. (Q.5:82)

Jesussaid: “…by the fruit ye shall knew them.”(Matt.7:20)

It mentioned in Luke:And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from thenorth, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom ofGod. Lu 13:29 ); “Know ye not that theunrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived:neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate,nor abusers of themselves withmankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers,nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” 1Co 6:9-10 

Br. Zainool