IslamiCity Forum - Islamic Discussion Forum : Israel lobby http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum This is an XML content feed of; IslamiCity Forum - Islamic Discussion Forum : World Politics : Israel lobby Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:19:43 +0000 Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:21:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 8.04 360 www.IslamiCity.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=22823 IslamiCity Forum - Islamic Discussion Forum http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_images/ICForum_Logo.gif http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum Israel lobby : My dear friend ,Iranians people... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=170981#170981 Author: whitelion553
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Posted: 01 December 2012 at 10:21pm

My dear friend ,Iranianspeople are human like you and hate from killing .we like be friend with allnations. We don’t like see the fear. We like all people .your children are likeour children ,they are clean and guiltless and gifts from our nice Allah .welike to see that all people are happy and in security. we believe that thereisnt  any difference between people inwest or east or every where .we enjoy from seeing nice nature ,playing of childrenand many other things. Iranians never threat American people or other peoplebut we like to be in safe like all people. Our people are very kind  and they like to be in the way of Allah andAllah hates from killing guiltless people.

]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:21:12 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=170981#170981 Israel lobby : Islamic Revolution... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=170980#170980 Author: whitelion553
Subject: 22823
Posted: 01 December 2012 at 10:18pm

Islamic Revolution Leader Ayatollah SayyidAli Khamenei said that the domineering superpowers bully other parties frombehind their dreadful appearance nevertheless America has lost its dreadfulappearance in large part owing to many dysfunctions in its political structure

theIRI Armed Forces are characterized with inspiring experiences gathered duringthe Sacred Defense against the western backed invading Iraqi forces

Ayatollah Seyyed AliKhamenei: "It is the resilience, steadfastness and independence of theIranian nation – a blessing of Islam and the Holy Quran -- which has so angeredand frustrated Westerners".
Ayatollah Khamenei said : Western sanctions are nothing new and they have beenin place for the past 33 years. The Leader pointedly added: "The UnitedStates and the Europeans claim the sanctions are directed at Iran's nuclearenergy program, but they are lying, since Western sanctions against Iranstarted at a time when Iran had no functioning nuclear energy program of anykind to speak of.
The Leader said Western sanctions are illogical, and are rooted in hostilityand vengeance. He said those who have imposed sanctions on Iran are lying whenthey say sanctions will be lifted if Iran halts its nuclear activities.
In further remarks, the Leader referred to "Western joy" because ofeconomic difficulties in Iran . He said: "The Westerners, somewhatundiplomatically, didn't even try to hide their joy at Iran's economicdifficulties, but of course, during the past year, we have all seen the peoplesof Europe pour on to the streets of many European cities, and the Europeans aregrappling with far more serious economic crises and problems of their own.
Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei pointedly added : "Iran will get through thecurrent difficulties, because of the vigilance of the Iranian nation andIranian officials , and Iran will bring changes to the region as well as to thewider world" .
The Leader said it is unwise of European countries to tow the US line, inAmerica's hostilities towards Iran. The Leader added: "The Iranian nationdoes not have bad memories of some European countries, but these countries ,because they have chosen the US line , are now hated by the Iraniannation".

]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:18:56 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=170980#170980 Israel lobby : Supreme Leader of the Islamic... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=170979#170979 Author: whitelion553
Subject: 22823
Posted: 01 December 2012 at 10:16pm

Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah SeyyedAli Khamenei said that the Iranian nation is determined to resist any threat orsanctions .The Iranian nation will turn all threats imposed by the enemies toopportunities and bring development and pride for the country , the SupremeLeader Ayatollah Khamenei said that pious Iranian nation with reliance on theirhistorical and cultural honors have made the Islamic Revolution victorious inIran and attained their independence national dignity welfare and prosperityAny nation should tolerate difficulties to attain its prime goals andaspirations underlined the Supreme Leader citing eight years of sacred defense fight againstterrorism resistance against threats as well as economic sanctions as parts ofhardships tolerated by the Iranian nation on their right path The Iraniannation from early stages of the Islamic Revolution faced economic sanctions andembargoes but with reliance on its invaluable power managed to turn all thethreats into opportunities and attained independence and self-confidenceTherefore "I advise you to keep in your mind that this great nation isnever afraid of economic sanctions" The international capitalist systemthrough extensive political propaganda did their best to force Iran to abandonits legitimate rights to benefit from nuclear energy but to no avail said theSupreme Leader adding that the pace of Iran`s development frightened them to anextent that they exerted more pressure on Iran while ignoring the fact that theIranian nation will turn all these threats into opportunities for itsdevelopment 2008/04/30]]> Sat, 01 Dec 2012 22:16:07 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=170979#170979 Israel lobby : http://www.guardian.co.uk/... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=167408#167408 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 22823
Posted: 06 September 2012 at 12:46pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/julian-borger-global-security-blog/2012/sep/04/israel-iran-nuclear?newsfeed=true]]> Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:46:40 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=167408#167408 Israel lobby : I do not think its the US that... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=167401#167401 Author: honeto
Subject: 22823
Posted: 06 September 2012 at 11:21am

I do not think its the US that is too eager to go to war, rather it is Israel who has been dragging the US into wars through blackmail or whatever for it's own broader and long term objectives. They know with their shrinking population worldwide this is their only way to survive. They want to make sure they do, regardless of the cost and they are using the US because its the only superpower left out there and they have its political apparatus in control.
Hasan ]]> Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:21:55 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=167401#167401 Israel lobby : There is no history of any western... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162719#162719 Author: Sign*Reader
Subject: 22823
Posted: 09 March 2012 at 4:23pm

There is no history of any western country attacking any Shiit ruled place in my memory! Iraq got invaded without overt or covert  proof of nuclear processing; whereas Iran has been showing off the nuclear facilities for a long time knowing the safety of being Shiit. Existence of Iran serves the divide and rule principle perfectly!
I don't think US wants to do another blunder like attacking Iraq when broke.   ]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:23:41 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162719#162719 Israel lobby : I don't think it's invasions... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162704#162704 Author: Hughes
Subject: 22823
Posted: 09 March 2012 at 5:47am

I don't think it's invasions they are worried about, but some sort of nuclear strike. ]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2012 05:47:38 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162704#162704 Israel lobby : http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162703#162703 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 22823
Posted: 09 March 2012 at 5:46am

]]> Fri, 09 Mar 2012 05:46:54 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162703#162703 Israel lobby : Iran doesn't have a history... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162689#162689 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 22823
Posted: 08 March 2012 at 8:52pm

Iran doesn't have a history of preemptive invasions, and their sure knowledge that America (Obama) has Israel's back.]]> Thu, 08 Mar 2012 20:52:52 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162689#162689 Israel lobby : Well it appears to me that the... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162684#162684 Author: Hughes
Subject: 22823
Posted: 08 March 2012 at 4:20pm

Well it appears to me that the Obama doesn't really support Israel, so I agree that concerns him.

I'm curious why you think we don't have to worry about Iran attacking Israel?]]> Thu, 08 Mar 2012 16:20:07 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162684#162684 Israel lobby : Yeah, I guess at the end of... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162683#162683 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 22823
Posted: 08 March 2012 at 2:04pm

Yeah, I guess at the end of the day it's the Israeli "feels threatened" scenario that has the Obama administration concerned.  I don't think we have to worry about Iran attacking Israel.]]> Thu, 08 Mar 2012 14:04:13 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162683#162683 Israel lobby : Originally posted by abuayisha Careful... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162682#162682 Author: Hughes
Subject: 22823
Posted: 08 March 2012 at 1:48pm

Originally posted by abuayisha



Careful Hughes, we're not simply talking trade or cultural issues here, but war, and American blood.  Are you comfortable with a foreign government deciding whether my son or your daughter is in harm's way; as defined solely by Israel? 


The question is difficult I agree.

My answer would be, if Israel feels threatened or is attacked (as Iran has threatened), then yes we should help them. ]]> Thu, 08 Mar 2012 13:48:34 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162682#162682 Israel lobby : Careful Hughes, we're... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162681#162681 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 22823
Posted: 08 March 2012 at 12:07pm

Careful Hughes, we're not simply talking trade or cultural issues here, but war, and American blood.  Are you comfortable with a foreign government deciding whether my son or your daughter is in harm's way; as defined solely by Israel?  ]]> Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:07:06 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162681#162681 Israel lobby : "What's good for Israel's... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162680#162680 Author: Hughes
Subject: 22823
Posted: 08 March 2012 at 10:56am

"What's good for Israel's national interests -- as defined solely by Israel -- serves American interests as well."

I think I agree with this statement. America and Israel have the same interests with regard to the Middle East. ]]> Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:56:01 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162680#162680 Israel lobby : Eric or no Eric, Obama is... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162663#162663 Author: Sign*Reader
Subject: 22823
Posted: 07 March 2012 at 3:10pm

Eric or no Eric, Obama is in a fix he has been trying to wiggle out since his election as POTUS. Just look at the names of the people who propelled and managed his campaign were mostly from the tribe and Israel wants the payoff to help knock off Iran that has never been in American calculus.
Obama has already backtracked to the words he gave to Binyamin N,
If you look at the picture of the prez room during the moment Osama was being tracked and got shot I don't think he is one who can do this for Israel!
It is just not Israel only that wants Irani nuke setup blown away, think KSA as Israeli cohorts in pushing this!

Of course not all wieses want this to happen but you know Iran's bluster will make it to happen; remember 1967 the asininity of Nasser for blockading Straits of Aqaba and then what went down?


Edited by Sign*Reader - 09 March 2012 at 3:51pm]]> Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:10:32 +0000 http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162663#162663 Israel lobby : Rep. Eric Cantor, the No.... http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22823&PID=162654#162654 Author: abuayisha
Subject: 22823
Posted: 07 March 2012 at 7:19am

Rep. Eric Cantor, the No. 2 Republican in the House of Representatives, said the [Sunday Obama AIPAC] speech was "a step in the right direction," but that "we need to make sure that this president is also going to stand by Israel and not allow his administration to somehow speak contrary to what our ally thinks is in its best interest." (emphasis added)

Now, this bolded part of the quote is quite extraordinary, if you think about it. Apparently, Cantor's standard with respect to American policy towards Israel is that the U.S. government cannot and should not contradict anything that Israel's government says. What's good for Israel's national interests -- as defined solely by Israel -- serves American interests as well.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/03/cantor-says-obama-must-not-speak-contrary-to-what-our-ally-thinks-is-in-its-best-interest.html
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