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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :  Originally posted by krazzy1Salam,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71957">Runaa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 February 2013 at 8:40am<br /><br /> <div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by krazzy1</strong></em><br /><br />Salam, <br /><br />I am fairly new to this forum and this topic on eyebrows does have me confused on a daily basis. <br /><br />So is cleaning of the eyebrows permitted then? Not shaping, i mean removing the extra hair/unibrow.....<br /><br />I know that some scholars say it is allowed whilst others say its haram, but what if a womans eyebrows resemble a mans?<br /><br />Thank you for taking your time in reading and replying to this post <br /><br />Allah hafiz</div> <br /><br />Don't get confused sister Allah is great and merciful]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : Salam, I am fairly new to this...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71929">krazzy1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 January 2013 at 9:25am<br /><br />Salam, <br /><br />I am fairly new to this forum and this topic on eyebrows does have me confused on a daily basis. <br /><br />So is cleaning of the eyebrows permitted then? Not shaping, i mean removing the extra hair/unibrow.....<br /><br />I know that some scholars say it is allowed whilst others say its haram, but what if a womans eyebrows resemble a mans?<br /><br />Thank you for taking your time in reading and replying to this post <br /><br />Allah hafiz]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : May ALLAH guide us all as many...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70945">Idil</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 November 2012 at 12:06pm<br /><br />May ALLAH guide us all as many of us can be hold accountable for this.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :   Originally posted by Chrysalis  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69919">HalaHala2012</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 May 2012 at 6:28am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Chrysalis</strong></em><br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by bluepen03</strong></em><br /><br />Salam, <br><br>I don't under stand why eyebrow plucking is haram.</div><br><br>You can get the part b/w your brows cleaned up - there is a hadith (Saying&nbsp; of Prophet Muhammad) that tells muslim women (and men) not to get tattoos and piercings, and space their teeth or shape their brows because this is what the non-muslim women used to do. (In summary).<br><br><div class="BBquote"><br>If eye brow shaping is haram, then so is wearing eyeliner and makeup.<br>but since this is not explicitly mention in any Hadith or the Qur'an it's ok?</div><br><br>Wearing eye-liner and makeup is not haraam - it depends on how you use it. If you are using these products to show-off or attract the attention of un-related males, then it can be haraam. Depends on the use.<br><br>There is nothing wrong with women using make-up or eye-liner for their husbands, family-members or in female gatherings.<br><br>Practically speaking if you want to use make-up in your daily life, to hide scars/acne or to look more presentable, best to do it in an under-stated manner without looking too ostentatious. (Heavy eye-makeup, colorful lips etc).<br><br>Many women don't realise it is for the general betterment of women. As Muslims, we are encouraged to dress up and display our ornaments to our men (spouses) and family-members, not the general public. This is better rather than have a society where women dress to the nines when they go out in public, creating an environment of female competition where women are judged based on looks and their beauty is being rated and judged by random people.<br><br>Also, there IS a hadith that talks about eye-brow plucking - scholars say it is okay to clean up the part above the nose, (which causes the unibrow) because it is not part of the actual brow. Also, if a woman is excessively hairy, so much so that it makes her look very unattractive and hinders suitors, she is allowed to even neaten her brows (because hers is an exceptional case).<br><br><br><div class="BBquote">I understand that men and women can be captivated by beauty of ones eyes.  so, if someone was born with perfect eyebrows where it looks really neat and well groomed, it's ok, even if their eyebrows look attractive. <br>but others who weren't blessed with good looking eyebrows have to leave them be?</div><br><br>People come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, skin colors etc. Some are deemed more attractive by society and some are not. Its not just about eye-brows... if one has that mentality, where does one stop? What about hair? Skin? Weight?&nbsp; Ok, so its not 'fair' that not everybody was created the same physically - but thats life. And as Muslims we believe that Allah in His infinite wisdom created everybody the way they are.<br><br><br><div class="BBquote">I understand that the purpose of the Hadith is so that we don't alter what we are born with. 'shaping the teeth.' does braces account for that??? and I  know my dentist has trimmed my teeth before...why? i never questioned.</div><br><br>Since you are not sure "why" this hadith was saying this, you need to look at the explanation of the Hadith by Scholars. You are not allowed to create artificial spaces in b/w the teeth like the hadith says. I have not heard anywhere that getting braces is haraam. You should take these concerns to a reliable scholar or read-up... <br><br>Anyway, getting braces is perfectly fine Islamically. What would NOT be fine is getting gold-teeth or things like that.<br><br>Also, I don't know if "altering one's natural state" is the reason for the hadith... because as Muslims we are allowed to do a lot of things that álter our natural state' like get haircuts, remove body hair, cut our nails, dye our nails, dye our hair - etc etc. There are SOME things that are explicitly prohibited and we stay away from them (like tattoos etc). <br><br><br><br><div class="BBquote">And I know women who actually alter their appearance by shaving off the eyebrow and tattooing it completely. this i can see why it's haram, because u r literally changing whats on your face, but shaping your eyebrow is like giving yourself a haircut.....<br><br>unless that too is haram...</div><br><br>You sound really frustrated.... I think that as Muslims before we can be comfortable implementing Islamic tenets into our lives, we need to be comfortable with our Deen. I think it would be a good idea to get in touch with the Qur'an, read the explanation, listen to/attend some beneficial talks/lectures etc. If we don't even know why we do/or don't do certain things in Islam, we find it harder. <br><br>The issue is not as simple as 'plucking eyebrows" I''m sure even if somebody did say u can pluck, there would be something else that would bother you. That can happen if we aren't really in touch with Allah and the Qur'an. The issue is deeper, not as simple as eye-brows. May Allah help us all implement deen and find it easy.<br><br>Anyway: You CAN neaten ur brows by removing the hair above ur nose and trimming hairs with a scissor that stick out. I would still be careful about plucking the brows into a shape, unless you ask a scholar. If this issue is REALLY bringing down your imaan, and thats all you can think about and you are feeling really frustrated, maybe I'm not supposed to say it, but my advise would be - do it then. I mean, if you are not plucking, but thinking all the time about how its so unfair, and why this is so - then there really is no point to not-plucking is there? Because you are not doing it for the right reasons...<br><br><br><br><font size="3"><font face="Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most excellent contribution to this 'conversation'. Thank you! <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Clap" /></font></font><br><br><br><br><br><br></div>]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :   Originally posted by Chrysalis  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69919">HalaHala2012</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 May 2012 at 6:25am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Chrysalis</strong></em><br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by truebeliever510</strong></em><br /><br />Unfortunately if I don't get my upper lip waxed, I grow a thick mustache!  So I will keep getting that waxed...</div><br><br>You can thread/wax your upper lips and any sort of body hair. There is no harm in that. Infact if one is married it would actually be encouraged. Its the eye-brows that should not be messed with (the middle part of the eye-brows above nose is still okay).<br><br>You can remove any body-hair, anyway you want. <br></div><font size="3"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I color mine back to their natural color. Is that ok? <br></font></font>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 06:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : I color mine back to their original...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69919">HalaHala2012</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 May 2012 at 6:23am<br /><br /><font size="3"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I color mine back to their original color. I do that only because of an illness I had years ago (alhamdulilah,I fully recovered,but was left with completely gray eyebrows!). I'm too lazy to do all that 'plucking' anyway. It hurts!&nbsp;<img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Ouch" /> <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />&nbsp;</font></font>]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : While I can understand the reasoning...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69849">joyful85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2012 at 6:20pm<br /><br />While I can understand the reasoning behind this, I still find it rather hilarious.]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :   Originally posted by truebeliever510Unfortunately...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58478">Chrysalis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 May 2012 at 8:13pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by truebeliever510</strong></em><br /><br />Unfortunately if I don't get my upper lip waxed, I grow a thick mustache!  So I will keep getting that waxed...</div><br><br>You can thread/wax your upper lips and any sort of body hair. There is no harm in that. Infact if one is married it would actually be encouraged. Its the eye-brows that should not be messed with (the middle part of the eye-brows above nose is still okay).<br><br>You can remove any body-hair, anyway you want. <br>]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : I have been having my eyebrows...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=69865">truebeliever510</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 May 2012 at 8:14pm<br /><br />I have been having my eyebrows waxed just to make them look neat for many years.  I'm glad I read this!  I also wear makeup every day, not to attract a man, but because I think it contributes to my overall appearance.  I like to look very neat and polished.  I am newly reverted to Islam.  I believe it is the intent of the makeup that makes the difference.  I will however stop having my brows waxed!  Unfortunately if I don't get my upper lip waxed, I grow a thick mustache!  So I will keep getting that waxed...]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :   Originally posted by bluepen03Salam,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58478">Chrysalis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 May 2012 at 12:16am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by bluepen03</strong></em><br /><br />Salam, <br><br>I don't under stand why eyebrow plucking is haram.</div><br><br>You can get the part b/w your brows cleaned up - there is a hadith (Saying&nbsp; of Prophet Muhammad) that tells muslim women (and men) not to get tattoos and piercings, and space their teeth or shape their brows because this is what the non-muslim women used to do. (In summary).<br><br><div class="BBquote"><br>If eye brow shaping is haram, then so is wearing eyeliner and makeup.<br>but since this is not explicitly mention in any Hadith or the Qur'an it's ok?</div><br><br>Wearing eye-liner and makeup is not haraam - it depends on how you use it. If you are using these products to show-off or attract the attention of un-related males, then it can be haraam. Depends on the use.<br><br>There is nothing wrong with women using make-up or eye-liner for their husbands, family-members or in female gatherings.<br><br>Practically speaking if you want to use make-up in your daily life, to hide scars/acne or to look more presentable, best to do it in an under-stated manner without looking too ostentatious. (Heavy eye-makeup, colorful lips etc).<br><br>Many women don't realise it is for the general betterment of women. As Muslims, we are encouraged to dress up and display our ornaments to our men (spouses) and family-members, not the general public. This is better rather than have a society where women dress to the nines when they go out in public, creating an environment of female competition where women are judged based on looks and their beauty is being rated and judged by random people.<br><br>Also, there IS a hadith that talks about eye-brow plucking - scholars say it is okay to clean up the part above the nose, (which causes the unibrow) because it is not part of the actual brow. Also, if a woman is excessively hairy, so much so that it makes her look very unattractive and hinders suitors, she is allowed to even neaten her brows (because hers is an exceptional case).<br><br><br><div class="BBquote">I understand that men and women can be captivated by beauty of ones eyes.  so, if someone was born with perfect eyebrows where it looks really neat and well groomed, it's ok, even if their eyebrows look attractive. <br>but others who weren't blessed with good looking eyebrows have to leave them be?</div><br><br>People come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, skin colors etc. Some are deemed more attractive by society and some are not. Its not just about eye-brows... if one has that mentality, where does one stop? What about hair? Skin? Weight?&nbsp; Ok, so its not 'fair' that not everybody was created the same physically - but thats life. And as Muslims we believe that Allah in His infinite wisdom created everybody the way they are.<br><br><br><div class="BBquote">I understand that the purpose of the Hadith is so that we don't alter what we are born with. 'shaping the teeth.' does braces account for that??? and I  know my dentist has trimmed my teeth before...why? i never questioned.</div><br><br>Since you are not sure "why" this hadith was saying this, you need to look at the explanation of the Hadith by Scholars. You are not allowed to create artificial spaces in b/w the teeth like the hadith says. I have not heard anywhere that getting braces is haraam. You should take these concerns to a reliable scholar or read-up... <br><br>Anyway, getting braces is perfectly fine Islamically. What would NOT be fine is getting gold-teeth or things like that.<br><br>Also, I don't know if "altering one's natural state" is the reason for the hadith... because as Muslims we are allowed to do a lot of things that álter our natural state' like get haircuts, remove body hair, cut our nails, dye our nails, dye our hair - etc etc. There are SOME things that are explicitly prohibited and we stay away from them (like tattoos etc). <br><br><br><br><div class="BBquote">And I know women who actually alter their appearance by shaving off the eyebrow and tattooing it completely. this i can see why it's haram, because u r literally changing whats on your face, but shaping your eyebrow is like giving yourself a haircut.....<br><br>unless that too is haram...</div><br><br>You sound really frustrated.... I think that as Muslims before we can be comfortable implementing Islamic tenets into our lives, we need to be comfortable with our Deen. I think it would be a good idea to get in touch with the Qur'an, read the explanation, listen to/attend some beneficial talks/lectures etc. If we don't even know why we do/or don't do certain things in Islam, we find it harder. <br><br>The issue is not as simple as 'plucking eyebrows" I''m sure even if somebody did say u can pluck, there would be something else that would bother you. That can happen if we aren't really in touch with Allah and the Qur'an. The issue is deeper, not as simple as eye-brows. May Allah help us all implement deen and find it easy.<br><br>Anyway: You CAN neaten ur brows by removing the hair above ur nose and trimming hairs with a scissor that stick out. I would still be careful about plucking the brows into a shape, unless you ask a scholar. If this issue is REALLY bringing down your imaan, and thats all you can think about and you are feeling really frustrated, maybe I'm not supposed to say it, but my advise would be - do it then. I mean, if you are not plucking, but thinking all the time about how its so unfair, and why this is so - then there really is no point to not-plucking is there? Because you are not doing it for the right reasons...<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=70064">bluepen03</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2012 at 1:51am<br /><br />Salam, <br /><br />I don't under stand why eyebrow plucking is haram.<br /><br />If eye brow shaping is haram, then so is wearing eyeliner and makeup.<br />but since this is not explicitly mention in any Hadith or the Qur'an it's ok?<br /><br />I understand that men and women can be captivated by beauty of ones eyes.  so, if someone was born with perfect eyebrows where it looks really neat and well groomed, it's ok, even if their eyebrows look attractive. <br />but others who weren't blessed with good looking eyebrows have to leave them be?<br /><br />I understand that the purpose of the Hadith is so that we don't alter what we are born with. 'shaping the teeth.' does braces account for that??? and I  know my dentist has trimmed my teeth before...why? i never questioned.<br /><br />And I know women who actually alter their appearance by shaving off the eyebrow and tattooing it completely. this i can see why it's haram, because u r literally changing whats on your face, but shaping your eyebrow is like giving yourself a haircut.....<br /><br />unless that too is haram...]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : I agree that plucking your eyebrows...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=63798">ctenophora</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 September 2010 at 3:52am<br /><br />I agree that plucking your eyebrows is forbidden, but is cutting them forbidden? And cutting in the term of enhancing the shape, not changing it. Because I've always known namas means plucking, but is cutting cursed too? Please gimme an answer. ):]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : yes bleach works just as well!!!...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=61985">hastye</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2010 at 9:48pm<br /><br />yes bleach works just as well!!! :)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=63123">Zaheya11</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2010 at 11:02pm<br /><br />I get extremely irate when I see young women wearing hijab, and they have plucked eyebrows as well. Unfortunately, theres not much we can do except try to lead them to the right path. Alhamdullilah, I was blessed with good looking eyebrows, so i dont touch mine. But my mom used to pluck hers until she realized she was committing a sin. So now she bleaches the stray hairs with hair bleach, and its just as effective.]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :    Originally posted by HayfaSalaams,Thanks...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58478">Chrysalis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 April 2010 at 11:35pm<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Hayfa</strong></em><br /><br />Salaams,<br><br>Thanks Chrysalis.. I will look at mine now <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /><br></div><br><br>Heheh, although honestly it is more of a headache for middle-eastern or asian women. Since not only is our hair generally darker, but erm, inclined to grow thicker. (Too bad it doesn't always apply to our scalp!). A lot of women can get away without touching their brows at all, since Allah has blessed them with tamer brows <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Big%20smile" /><br><br><font size="2"><b>Martha,</b></font> yes you are right. Sometimes it can get confusing to hear so many views. But then again, it is only foreseeable and well, logical. You cannot have a billion plus population of varying ethnicities, cultures, backgrounds and have one conforming point of view. Think of it as a blessing (infact I think I have heard some scholars speak of it as this way) - that Allah gave us the flexibility to an extent to formulate opinions in matters of deen. Even the sahaba used to have degrees of variability in their opinions. Some like Umar (r.a) took a stricter approach, whereas others like Abu Bakr &amp; Usman (r.a) would take a softer approach. Yet no one was wrong, and they all were right in their approaches - islamically speaking. <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /><br><br><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Chrysalis - 19 April 2010 at 11:35pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52403">Hayfa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 April 2010 at 9:33am<br /><br /><div ="BBquote"><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">But what we think is that women should not do that unless the hair of the     eyebrows is </font><b><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"><i>so thick that it hangs down over the eyes and affects her     vision</i></font></b><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">, in which case it is o.k. to remove that which is causing the     problem.<br><br><font color="#000099">Has this ever happened?? I read tons about medical conditions never heard of it.. </font><br></font></div>]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! :   Originally posted by hastyeWhat...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58478">Chrysalis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 April 2010 at 1:12am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by hastye</strong></em><br /><br /><font size="3" color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">What is the difference in plucking a few eyebrows to look "neat and tidy" and to look "feminine"?&nbsp; You will still be plucking!<br><br></font><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><font size="3" color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">    If that is done by means of plucking, then it is haram, and     indeed it is one of the major sins, because it is the “namas” for     which the Messenger  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed     the one who does it. But if it is done by cutting or shaving, then it was     regarded as makrooh by some scholars and forbidden by others who regarded it     as a kind of “namas”.</div></font></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><br></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><font size="3" color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">So a Sister whose brows are too bushy (as explained in the articles above) can trim rather than pluck . . . . since some scholars allow it.</font></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><br></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><font size="3" color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><div class="BBquote">But what we think is that women should not do that unless the hair of the     eyebrows is </font><b><font size="3" color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><i>so thick that it hangs down over the eyes and affects her     vision</i></font></b><font size="3" color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">, in which case it is o.k. to remove that which is causing the     problem.</div></font></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;">I don't think such cases even exist . . . <br></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><br></p><p style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr;"><br></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><font size="3" color="#000066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font color="#000000">And Allah knows best.</font><br></font></p><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=61985">hastye</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 April 2010 at 7:52pm<br /><br /><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">What is the difference in plucking a few eyebrows to look "neat and tidy" and to look "feminine"?&nbsp; You will still be plucking!<br><br></font><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="text-align: justify; directi&#111;n: ltr; unicode-bidi: ;"><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">    If that is done by means of plucking, then it is haram, and     indeed it is one of the major sins, because it is the “namas” for     which the Messenger  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed     the one who does it. But if it is done by cutting or shaving, then it was     regarded as makrooh by some scholars and forbidden by others who regarded it     as a kind of “namas”. They said: “ ‘Namas’ does not only mean     plucking, rather it is a general word which includes all ways of changing     the hair for which Allah has not granted permission, if it is on the face.”     But what we think is that women should not do that unless the hair of the     eyebrows is </font><b><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"><i>so thick that it hangs down over the eyes and affects her     vision</i></font></b><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">, in which case it is o.k. to remove that which is causing the     problem.</font></p><font color="#990066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"><br>Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen</font>	  	<br><br><br><font color="#330099" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Prophet Mohammad (saws) has cursed the women who plucks her eyebrows and the women who do the plucking for another woman.&nbsp; And Allah (subhanna wa taala) has said in the Quran that we must obey our Prophet (saws).</font><br><br><br><br><p ="Ms&#111;normal" style="text-align: left; directi&#111;n: ltr; unicode-bidi: ;">           <font color="#000066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">It is OK for a woman to remove hair on the upper lip,           thighs, calves and arms. This is not the same as plucking (eyebrows),           which is forbidden.&nbsp;</font></p>        <p ="MsoText" style="text-align: justify;"><font color="#000066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">           ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz, ‘Abd al-Razzaaq ‘Afeefi, ‘Abd-Allaah           ibn Ghadyaan, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Qa’ood</font></p><p ="MsoText" style="text-align: justify;"><br></p><p ="MsoText" style="text-align: justify;"><br></p><p ="MsoText" style="text-align: justify;"><font color="#00cc33"><br></font></p><p ="MsoText" style="text-align: justify;"><font color="#000066" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"><font color="#000000">And Allah knows best.</font><br></font></p><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58478">Chrysalis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 April 2010 at 6:16am<br /><br /><div class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dayare</strong></em><br /><br /><p>Assalaamu Alikum Sister...</p><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I heard shaping Eyebrows is like enhancing the beauty to look neat and tidy... </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>pls tell me trimming the eyebrows is&nbsp;permissable&nbsp;or not&nbsp;?</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div></div><br><br>Wa'alaikum salaam Sis,<br><br>Well, the articles above sum it pretty well. If the brows are too thick (a bit on the hairy side) then according to scholars, its okay to trim them to make them look feminine. (since we are <i>supposed </i>to differentiate ourselves from men in our appearance)&nbsp; As long as we don't "shape" them into thin curves. I think we all know what that means, there are "thin curvy" brows, and then there are "neatly trimmed brows" - which don't even look "made".<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=62070">dayare</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 April 2010 at 3:39am<br /><br /><P>Assalaamu Alikum Sister...</P><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I heard shaping Eyebrows is like enhancing the beauty to look neat and tidy... </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>pls tell me trimming the eyebrows is&nbsp;permissable&nbsp;or not&nbsp;?</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52403">Hayfa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 March 2010 at 5:52pm<br /><br />Its interesting about what you say Martha about the frustration..&nbsp; <br><br>so it comes back to intentions.. to look neat and tidy but not alluring to men..&nbsp;<img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /> <br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58319">martha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 March 2010 at 10:54am<br /><br />"In light of the above, according to these scholars, it is considered permissible to shape or trim one’s eyebrows if they are excessively long or thick for the purpose of appearing neat and tidy"<br /><br />Oh thats OK then. I don't over pluck so they look thin, and I don't wax or shave them, so I guess I'm OK.<br /><br />BUt isn't it frustrating to hear so many different views! <br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=61985">hastye</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 March 2010 at 9:31am<br /><br /><b><font color="#9900ff">Yes it is permissable to clean the hair between your actual brows. &nbsp;</font></b>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52403">Hayfa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 March 2010 at 8:31am<br /><br />Salaams,<br><br>Thanks Chrysalis.. I will look at mine now <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" /><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58478">Chrysalis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 March 2010 at 6:13am<br /><br />I heard a lecture by Bilal Assad, during the Q &amp; A he received a similar question and said that in arabic, "brows" refers only to the curved part. . . so it is okay to clear out the hair above your nose (where the brows meet i.e. part that causes your "unibrow" ). But it is not allowed to "shape" your brows and make them thin and curvy.<br><br>Would post the link of the lecture, but its approx 30-40minutes and the eyebrow question is in the middle of the video somewhere.<br><br>Furthermore:<br><br><a href="http://www.islam&#111;nline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1235477843556&amp;pagename=Islam&#079;nline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar" target="_blank">http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1235477843556&amp;pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar</a><br><br><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">"<i>Theexception to this rule is if the hair of her eyebrows is excessivelylong or thick. In this case, some Muslims scholars are of the opinionthat it is permissible to trim them as this is enhancing Allah’screation rather than changing it. Also, it is permissible to remove thehair from between the eyebrows because it is not part of the eyebrows</i>."</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">and,</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><font color="#000000">"<i>What is prohibited is <b>an-Nams</b>, which denotes removing the hair of the eyebrows by plucking in order to make it thin</i>"</font></p><div id="Tixyy" style="border: medium n&#111;ne ; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-align: left; text-decorati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><br>Read more: <a href="http://www.islam&#111;nline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503543976&amp;pagename=Islam&#079;nline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar#ixzz0jHuazdCN" target="_blank">http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503543976&amp;pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar#ixzz0jHuazdCN</a><br></div><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><br><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; directi&#111;n: ltr; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"><br></span></p><div id="Tixyy" style="border: medium n&#111;ne ; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-align: left; text-decorati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><font color="#000000"><b>"S<i>heikh Ahmad Kutty</i></b><i>, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:<br><br></i></font><blockquote><font color="#000000"><i>There is a difference of opinion among scholars regarding whether one is permitted in Islam to shape or trim one’s eyebrows. <br><br>According to a group of scholars, shaping one’s eyebrows isconsidered forbidden, and they cite the following statement of theProphet (peace and blessings be upon him): <b>“Allah has cursed womenwho tattoo their bodies, wear false hair, those who pluck theireyebrows, and those who artificially widen gaps between their teeth.”</b> They say that shaping the eyebrows or trimming them falls under the same rule</i>.<br><br></font><i><font color="#000000">As opposed to the above, other scholars considershaping eyebrows or trimming them to be permissible. They say that theprohibition in the above hadith specifically refers to pluckingeyebrows, and it is prohibited because it is akin to mutilation, andalso it is more likely to result in defaming one’s face. As opposed tothis, shaping the eyebrows if they are excessively long or thinningthem if they are excessively thick, is enhancing Allah’s creationrather than mutilating it. Its analogy, therefore, is to trimming themustache or cutting hair, and so on, which are not only permissible butmay also be recommended.<br><br>In light of the above, according to these scholars, it isconsidered permissible to shape or trim one’s eyebrows if they areexcessively long or thick for the purpose of appearing neat and tidy"</font></i><div id="Tixyy" style="border: medium n&#111;ne ; overflow: ; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); : transparent; text-align: left; text-decorati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><br>Read more: <a href="http://www.islam&#111;nline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Islam&#111;nline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&amp;cid=1119503548812#ixzz0jHwPch1o" target="_blank">http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Islamonline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&amp;cid=1119503548812#ixzz0jHwPch1o</a><br></div><font color="#000000">"</font></blockquote><div id="Tixyy" style="border: medium n&#111;ne ; overflow: ; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); : transparent; text-align: left; text-decorati&#111;n: n&#111;ne;"><br></div><br><br></div><br><br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Chrysalis - 26 March 2010 at 6:19am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=61985">hastye</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 March 2010 at 8:58pm<br /><br /><b><font color="#9900ff">Martha you could change that....</font></b>&nbsp;<img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" /><br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52403">Hayfa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 March 2010 at 6:47pm<br /><br />I don't look at mine... LOL]]>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : Salams,Well, I am cursed as...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=58319">martha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 March 2010 at 4:20pm<br /><br />Salams,<br /><br />Well, I am cursed as I pluck mine.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> <br /><br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Plucking Eyebrows = HARAM! : Asalamu alaikum wa ramatu Allah...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=61985">hastye</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 16558<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 March 2010 at 1:18pm<br /><br /><font color="#6600cc"><font size="3"><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Asalamu alaikum wa ramatu Allah wa barakatu Ladies,<br><br>We all love to look beautiful, but I am so tired of seeing "Muslim" women with plucked/waxed eyebrows who follow the <i>Sunnah</i>.&nbsp; <br><br>I asked myself, "these women should know it is <i>haram</i>, right?!"&nbsp; "How can they not know their religion?! This is a big deal!"<br><br>So with that said:<br><br>Bismillah ArRahman, IrRahim,<br><br>It is not permissable, it is <b>haram</b>, to pluck, wax, touch the eyebrows.&nbsp; <br><br></font></font></font><font color="#000000" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"><b>Bukhari     (4886) and Muslim (2125) narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah     be pleased with him) said: May Allah curse the one who does tattoos and the     one who has a tattoo done, the one who plucks eyebrows and the one who has     her eyebrows plucked, and those who file teeth for the purpose of     beautification, changing the creation of Allah</b></font>.<br><font color="#6600cc"><font size="3"><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><br></font></font></font><font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="3"><b><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Sheikh Ibn Jibreen said: “It is </font><font color="#ff0000" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">not</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">     permissible to cut the hair of the eyebrows, or to shave it, reduce it or     pluck it, even with the husband’s approval. This is not the matter of     beauty, </font><font color="#ff0000" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><i>rather it is altering the creation of Allah</i></font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"> Who is the <font color="#ff0000">Best</font> of     creators. A warning has been narrated against doing that and the one who     does it is cursed; this implies that it is forbidden.<br><br><font color="#ff0099">So, with that said....what do you ladies do to your eyebrows?<br><br>I myself just lighten the hair above my arch with a little hair bleach and also a little below the arch.<br></font></font></b></font><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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